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why dont u believe look around u who do you think made u??who do u think cures and gives you another day to live??ps..God loves you even if u dont believe in him

2006-10-29 08:55:11 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Why I Don't Believe in the Existence of Gods:

=== 1: Simple Common Sense ===

Nothing in life has ever made me suspect that any gods really exist. I see no divine revelations, no miracles, no answered prayers, no preferential good fortune for people of any particular faith, no divine retribution for evildoers, no protection for the virtuous, the innocent or the weak. Life is exactly as we would expect it to be if there was no divine influence in the world - i.e. good and bad things come to good and bad people alike. Our lives are subject to chance, and the actions of other people, but that seems to be all.

=== 2: The Natural World ===

"Nature does all things spontaneously, by herself, without the meddling of the gods." - Titus Lucretius Carus (c.99-55 BCE).

We can see no sign of any divine involvement in the natural world. Galaxies, stars and planets form because it is in the nature of matter to do so. Living organisms evolve and diverge by the unthinking, undirected process of evolution. There is no plan, no design, just the effects of probability and the properties of matter and forces. Many people will claim to the contrary, but as far as I can tell this just reflects an ignorance about how the natural world really is, rather than the perception of any higher truth. Certainly, their arguments always evaporate in the light of reason.

=== 3: Logical Arguments ===

1: I cannot believe that the wealth of organisation, complexity and diversity that we see in the physical world, and particularly in the structures and functions of living organisms, could just exist fully formed with no origin, no precursor, nothing to explain its existence. By the same token, I cannot believe that an entity could exist which designed and created the physical and natural world, and which *itself* exists fully formed with no origin, no precursor, no explanation for its existence. The only reasonable explanation, therefore, is that organisation, complexity and diversity are features which naturally develop out of simplicity and chaos because of the fundamental nature of the universe. This is indeed what science shows us, in the form of cosmology and biology, as supported by real objective evidence and reasoned argument.

2: We've known for thousands of years that the 'tri-omni' gods of classical monotheistic religions cannot exist. If an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent deity existed, then human evil could not exist. Since human evil unarguably does exist, the classical monotheistic deity cannot exist (objections about 'free will' notwithstanding).

3: Quantum Mechanics strongly suggests that nothingness is a state that cannot exist in reality, since that would be 100% deterministic, and QM says that existence is probabilistic rather than deterministic. Experimental evidence supports QM. If true, then this also precludes the existence of a creator, since it would be impossible to have a state of 'nothingness' from which a 'something' could be created.

4: David Hume proved that moral values are subjective - i.e. they describe a person's response to events, rather than objective properties of events themselves. Since morals are personal and subjective, there cannot be an external, objective source of moral values - Indeed, the idea is simply incomprehensible. Therefore, any god which is claimed to be the objective source of moral values cannot possibly exist. This includes the gods of most monotheistic religions, by their usual definitions.

5: Argument from design: If everything was designed by an intelligent creator then we would have no basis for identifying things that clearly *are* designed (things made by human beings) since we would have no non-designed (i.e. natural) things to compare them with. Therefore the natural world (everything that has not been designed by humans) must be non-designed, and therefore there can't be a designer god.

6: All attempts at arguing *for* the existence of any gods through logic and reason can be and have been comprehensively debunked.

=== 4: Religious Belief, Literature and Dogma ===

If any religion were true, we could reasonably expect it to produce some ideas and beliefs that people couldn't have thought up by themselves. Similarly for 'holy texts', and the rules and practices that derive from them. In fact though, religions only produce what we would expect humans to imagine or decide for themselves, on the basis of aspects of human nature such as superstition, moral judgments, xenophobia and so on. There is no sign of any divine influence here.

Religious literature, if divinely inspired, ought to be factually correct and free of contradictions, immoral ideas and absurdities. None of the holy texts fit the bill.

=== 5: Society and Culture ===

It's an observable fact that people overwhelmingly adopt the religion of their family and culture. If there was any external truth to religion, which human beings could perceive with some kind of supernatural sense, then we could reasonably expect there to be some consistency in religious belief. Instead, the distrubution of different religious beliefs is exactly as we would expect it to be if this were pure mythology, handed down through family and culture like any other kind of purely fictional story.

=== 6: Intellectual and Moral Progress ===

Religion has consistently been the enemy of intellectual progress, suppressing rational investigation of the world where it disagrees with and thus endangers religious belief (often by torture and death). There has never been, to the best of my knowledge, one single fact about the world that was brought to us by divine inspiration rather than rational investigation. How could this be, if religion were a source of truth? Religion has also consistently been the undisputed cause of much cruelty, conflict, discrimination and persecution in the world, belying the existence of any kind of benevolent or moral guardian of the world.

=== 7: Rational Explanation for Religious Belief ===

As part of our evolutionary 'toolkit' of survival strategies, we have a highly developed awareness of other entities in our environment - We often notice human faces in carpet patterns, rabbit-shaped clouds and so on. There is more survival value in seeing what really *is* there, and also seeing some things that *aren't* really there, than in missing things that really are there and going hungry, or worse, ending up as someone else's lunch.

The consequence of this undeniably true aspect of human nature is that we have a natural tendency to imagine 'agents' (intelligent entities) behind natural phenomena and events in our own lives that aren't really there - i.e. gods and goddesses, demons, angels, spirits - a whole menagerie of supernatural characters. Society and culture binds up these characters with our wishes and fears, our desires for dominance and submission and shared identity, and we end up with religious belief and ritual and dogma, in thousands of different flavours throughout the world and throughout history. Religion is formalised superstition - It's just a common flaw in human nature, rather like the way we see optical illusions. We can account for the existence of religious belief perfectly well with this fact-based, rational explanation, rather than believing that there really is a supernatural realm of existence.

=== 8: Human Nature ===

Religious people will argue that humans are unique amongst all the animals in having an eternal, divine component that exists independently of the physical body - Usually referred to as a 'soul'. What exactly could a soul be? What properties could it have? What part of a person resides in the soul?

If it's postulated that consciousness, or awareness, or sense of self resides in the soul, it's difficult to see how this can be reconciled with the complete oblivion which accompanies general anaesthesia. How could a straightforward chemical, injected into the bloodstream, anaesthetise a soul so that it effectively ceases to exist during this time? If consciousness, in the form of a soul, were some kind of supernatural faculty, it would seem implausible that it could be completely disabled by a chemical.

How about some of the other things which we regard as essential parts of what makes a person what they are? How about love, compassion, reason, empathy, memory, conscious thought, character, 'spirituality' and so on? Well, there is really no plausible doubt that all these things are properties of the physical brain - We can alter all of these properties very simply with alcohol or other drugs, and observe how they change in people who have suffered significant brain damage. Previously placid people become uncontrollably violent, intelligent people become imbeciles, and so on. Stimulate the brain artificially, and the subject reports corresponding mental activity, e.g. 'religious experiences'. We can see from brain research that all these things - thought, emotion, sensation, character traits and so on - are correlated with activity in the brain, and some things can be identified with specific areas of the brain.

So, if all these faculties and characteristics of what we regard as the 'person' reside in the physical brain, as seems to be undeniably the case, and they all cease when the person dies, then what is left to be attributed to a 'soul'? As far as I can ascertain: Nothing. If there is no part of us that can continue after death, then there is no 'afterlife'... and if there is no afterlife, then most of religion is null and void.

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There are other reasons too, but that'll do for now...

2006-10-29 08:57:51 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 10 2

Christmas isn't a pagan holiday, the celebration of the winter solstice is a pagan holiday and when the Romans bought christianity to the rest of the world, it was easier to get people to celebrate the birth of their saviour on a date that was already being celebrated by millions of people. Whether you celebrate the winter solstice, the birth of Jesus or nothing at all is up to you but really, it's just a nice time to get together with family and there is nothing wrong with that. As for it being materialistic? Of course it is! We live in a very competitive, material world I'm afraid.

2016-05-22 05:52:47 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

With all due respect -

I think my parents made me.

I don't know what cures some people anymore than I know what doesn't cure others. I have one friend dying of lung cancer and another friend fighting what will probably be a losing battle with lychemia.

So, tell god that it's nice that he loves us but we need some medical cures down here - and we need them now!!!

A

2006-10-29 09:00:12 · answer #3 · answered by Alan 7 · 4 0

My parents made me. Read a biology text book to learn how life is created. We cure diseases so we can live on. We do this through something called medical science.

When I get bad allergies from pollen and dust, I take a pill which clears the sinuses. I didn't open the Bible to clear my nose.

2006-10-29 09:02:11 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

I don't believe in things that are unproven. It is just as easy to say that invisible bunny rabbits made me, cure illness, and provide every day, and equally as proven as the idea that a god did it. I prefer to stick with rational, provable, verifiable things. My parents made me by sexual reproduction; our species evolved over millions of years and is still evolving. "No one" cures me--except perhaps doctors when I am ill--and I have another day to live because my body hasn't given out yet.

2006-10-29 08:59:25 · answer #5 · answered by N 6 · 4 0

Ok, I looked around me. 1. My parents made me--I'm sure of that. 2. Doctors cure me if I am sick--I can prove that, can you prove otherwise? 3. How do you know god is a him and not a her if there's a god? What makes you so sure except for blind faith? Mind you, it's okay that you do feel this way--death is less scary, but hey, who says you're right and I'm wrong and can prove either one of us? Why does god allow children to die? cockroaches to live? seriously. why did god allow 911 to happen?
Why do people kill for god?

2006-10-29 08:59:53 · answer #6 · answered by heyrobo 6 · 3 0

I've asked God to take away the diabetes he has given me. No bueno. If he creates all and cures all...he must have overlooked me. Since you seem to have met him before, could you hollar at him and tell him to send me a new pancreas...one that works this time. Thanks.
P.S. I'll even pay the shipping and handling.

2006-10-29 11:29:59 · answer #7 · answered by justforthisonepost 3 · 1 0

Your spirituality is superficial and what you are really after is to blot out anyone who disagrees with you. Why? Because you fear death and you cannot stand the thought of ceasing to exist. So you think that if you can convince others of eternal life that you will be able to quiet the doubt in your own mind.

Doesn't work.

2006-10-29 08:59:47 · answer #8 · answered by Alan Turing 5 · 4 0

All of the things you claim for God are directly given to you by the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Prove they aren't. May you be touched by his noodly appendage. RAmen.

Oh, and you should DEFINITELY give Icarus62 best answer. But I doubt you will.
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2006-10-29 09:04:35 · answer #9 · answered by Bad Liberal 7 · 3 0

my mother and father made me, doctors whom use science cure me and give me another day to live.

And i also concur with the gentleman above.. he is a true pastafarian. RAmen

2006-10-29 09:11:53 · answer #10 · answered by hungryhillkid 2 · 1 0

I have rational explanations for almost everything I see without believing in god.

2006-10-29 08:58:50 · answer #11 · answered by trouthunter 4 · 4 0

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