Ques to Christian about TRINITY? Please study this. Am i right?

Question

Everybody believe The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost is as ONE TRINITY. Technically Yes! that is very true. They are from GOD.

The TRINITY explains the birth of JESUS. The father is God ONE and only GOD (being Jesus and all his deciples is jewish).

The Son is Jesus being without father. A son that sent direct from GOD(same as ADAM) God's son and

the last part you didn't know. I don't know why but you just didn't know this. Holy Ghost=Holy Spirit=Angel Gabriel(One like God).

All this is the explaination of Jesus birth. The Holy Ghost or the Holy Spirit is Angel Gabriel that visited Mary to tell her the news of miracle birth of Jesus.

That is what Saint Paul(being jewish priest) trying to explain to his people the miracle birth of Jesus while preaching {{{ONE "GOD" theory}}}. Having strong PAGAN influences they had misunderstood TRINITY as ALL as ONE "GOD" hence Jesus became God whom his not.

Jesus never claim "I am Aalahah"

What do you think of this issue?

He is God almighty why he just say I am GOD? Not I and the father are 1. Just like ADAM are one with GOD. No doctorine ever noted in Old Testament period a "GOD" is coming? It didnt say "Yahweh" is coming.

This concept is actually very simple to understand. Yes the bible is true(some part) but is the trinity that lure everybody out. Focus on the trinity. Its basics understanding. You may not understand before because you don't know the angel part. Now you know does it make sense?

Since the trinity is created HUNDREDS years later its obvious that the idea of jesus birth had been mislead.

Answer 1

During his preaching, Jesus had never called himself as God or Son-God. Now, look upon those people who consider Jesus as God or Son-God. They are, baselessly, blaming even those people who were present at the spot and knew that Jesus was not God or son-god. In other words, the people with the belief that Jesus is God or Son-god; are far more enemies of Jesus who tried to crucify him.

•The people who say that Jesus is God or Son-God or in his guise, the Lord descended upon earth because of God’s love for humanity. They are, baselessly, blaming Jesus and the Lord of Jesus, the both.
According to Jesus, God, the Holy One; is the Saviour of the Whole mankind. God is capable (be God glorified as God is) to relive off every infliction. None of the human beings is saviour beside God. Jesus, himself is also, not a saviour at all. The people who have chosen him as their saviour__ they have denied the Holy One___ who alone is the saviour of Jesus and whole mankind and the act of choosing Jesus as saviour__ is equal to hate the Holy One___ as it is clearly written in the old Testament:-

“I am the Lord your God. Worship no God but Me. Do not make for yourself images of anything in heavens or on earth or in the water under the earth. Do not bow down to any idol or worship it. Because I am the Lord your God and I tolerate no rivals. I bring punishment on those who hate me, on their descendants, down to third and fourth generation.”
(Exodus 20:1-5)

Now, ponder over the point that whosoever says that Jesus is God___ Holy Spirit is God___ Mary is God; has he not made an idol beside the One God? While nothing is there in the earth and heavens which could be considered in terms of the One God.

Beware please! A father is a father__ a mother is a mother___ and a son is a son__ and they all are the creatures of God. They cannot be considered as God___ as god is their Creator__ and nothing is like the Lord.

Creatures of God are God’s Creatures they can never be considered as God or as the parts of God. Same is the case of Jesus who is a creature and, as such, can not be considered as God or a part of the Creator or the son of Creator.

•Jesus is not a Saviour. He is not capable, even, to save himself from his enemies. How he can be considered “All-Able” to save everyone on the earth. It is the Lord alone__ Who is the All-Able to save every creature of the universe including the mankind__ as the Lord is already saving__ each of them__ without any desolation and defect.

Jesus was born after Adam, Noah, Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, Moses and the numerous other Prophets (peace & blessings of God be upon all of them). If he were the Son-God, then, all of the foregoing Prophets, must have been the believers of Trinity. But the case is not like that at all. None of them was the believer of Trinity, rather, none of them, had, even, heard about the name of Trinity, in their times. Hence, Trinity is nothing else but an invented and artificial concept which has no existence, even, during the time of Jesus. It is, therefore, a rootless concept from all accounts.

Prior to Jesus, the Lord had created Eve, without mother__ and Adam, without mother and father, the both. Afterwards, the Lord created Jesus without father. So the creation of Jesus, without father, is the third instance of the Lord’s all-encompassing creativity___ which is free from all the channels or systems of the birth. Instead, all the channels or systems of the birth are subservient to the all-encompassing and unique creativity of the Lord.
The Lord is, therefore, Holy and the Lord must be believed in, as Holy. To ascribe a son unto the Lord__ is a direct assault on the Lord’s Holiness__ which is an unpardonable crime.

since Adam to Noah__ Noah to Abraham__ Abraham to David, David to Moses__ Moses to Jesus and Jesus to Muhammad (peace & blessings of God be upon all of them) all the Prophets were slaves or servants of the Lord. And, in their servant-n-master or slave-n-lord based relationship__ all of them had__ all the qualities of servants & slaves definitely. That is why that all of them stood as servants & slaves of the Lord__ throughout their lives__ and obeyed their Lord in the most positive terms.

In the lines:-

“Honour the Lord, you descendants of Jacob!
Worship the Lord, you people of Israel!”

Jesus is advising the descendants of Jacob and the people of Israel to honour and worship the Holy One. The same thing has been advised in Quran after Torah by the Almighty God to whole mankind. It means that God of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace and blessings of God be upon each of them) is One, the Holy One. Who alone, is to be honoured and worshipped ___ by the people of Jesus__ by the people__ of Muhammad__ and by the whole mankind.
Like Jesus, Mary and Moses every Prophet and every righteous person has praised__ honoured__ and worshipped the Lord, alone. So, the followers of all the Scriptures, should naturally praise__ honour__and worship the Lord alone as that__ and only that__ is the true faith and all of us should keep our Lord alone as our saviour with us here and hereafter.
Torah, Psalms, Gospel and Quran, all the Scriptures are saying that God is One, the Holy One. So whosoever does not believe in One God, he is definitely denying all the Scriptures. Such a person can not be considered as a believer at all.

No Prophet or a righteous-man has ever dared to say that he, himself, should be honoured like God or worshipped like God. Satan, of course, had certainly said to Jesus to worship him in place of God but Jesus had responded in the following way:-

“Go away Satan! The Scripture says: Worship the Lord you God and serve only the Lord.”
(Matthew 4:10)

In the same way, Jesus has responded in his prayer on the cross while uttering the following lines of the Verse No.23:-

“Praise the Lord, you servants of the Lord!
Honour the Lord, you descendants of Jacob!
Worship the Lord, you people of Israel!”

No doubt, it is a matter of simple common-sense that when God is One__ the Lord is One__ the saviour is one__ the Holy and Only One__ then, how his slaves or servants__ can be held as worthy of the honour & service__ which is meant for the Holy One alone. But alas! The people are honouring and serving the slaves and servants__ just like the Lord. Rather, they have chosen them as God & the Lord__ in place of the Holy One. And__ Christians are the pioneers of such ideas. They have straightaway declared Jesus as God & Lord and the Saviour. Rather, they hold Jesus as the sole sovereign of the Day of Judgement, instead of the Lord, the Almighty God, the Holy One.

Answer 2

The idea of the Trinity did not come along till the Nicene Creed, in the 4th century. It is a concept of the Catholic Church. I believe that G-d is One, not a trinity.

And, Paul was not a Jewish priest-----he was just a man. Jewish Priests had to be of the Kohanim tribe, which Paul was not.

I am not a Christian, so may be wrong here------but, the Holy
Spirit was the essence of G-d----------the spirit of G-d, not Gabriel. I am sure, tho, someone will agree with me.

I think you need to find a minister to tell you about Christianity, as someone has told you alot of facts that are wrong.

Answer 3

The Holy Spirit is NOT Angel Gabriel because the angels were created. The Holy Spirit, as a part of the trinity, was NOT created.

Answer 4

Well, well...someone in here has been Jehowah Witnessed!
Hence I agree with you about the pagan origins of the Trinity and the false 'edits' of Tertullian. But should honestly say to you that the devil '....deceives the whole world' as it's written in the Sripture. Jesus or Word and God the Father ARE the Godhead, but the Holy spirit is a power, the working essence of God, holy substance of a sort! No wonder it is compered to water in the scripture. Read this and prove it to yourself from the Bible:
http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/cgi-bin/tw/tw-mag.cgi?category=Magazine28&item=1104232928

Answer 5

God is love. Jesus and the father are one, and the holy spirit is the LOve between the Father and the Son.

Answer 6

now we see in a mirror darkly. There are some relationships men who use words can not understand and these issues the Devil uses to cause separatioin of the flock so he can easier devour those who are weak.

Steer cleer of issues that cause separation or you help the prince of the air.

There are many important scriptures which you or anyone can use to improve your behavior and grow closer to conforming to the image, this is not one of those.

Think about this Jesus can be Lord and not be God. He can have been appointed to stations of great importance, positions we can not distinguish from what our small idea of who God is. It says He sent the Holy Spirit. The comforter is the name He uses.

Why thrash around and cause separation when one of the major doctrines taught and easlily understood is to be of one accord and to love each other. In these there is no arguement. This whole trinity point causes separtation so why keep pounding on this drum of separation.

"concentrate continueouly on what is good" (said Paul), not on fuzzy images in a "mirror darkly" (used by Paul to explain our current condition here on earth).

Answer 7

Beleive not the wordplays and fables. The Trinity is Three in one, one in three. Trinity comes from the Hebrew word triunus, meaning three in one.

The trinity existed before Gabriel was born. In fact, the Holy Spirit was noted in Gen 1:2, hovering over the face of the waters when the earth was without form, void.

Answer 8

Jesus tells us in John 10:30
"I and the Father are one."

I'm unclear what it is exactly you want to know about the Holy Spirit.

I'll re-read your comment and then try to edit this post.

Edit: Galatians4:4-7
4But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law, 5to redeem those under law, that we might receive the full rights of sons. 6Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba,Father." 7So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir.

Answer 9

Did you know that before the church adopted the philosophy of the trinity, the idea of worshipping gods in threes was well established in many cultures including egypt, greece and india? basiclly the christain teaching is god is god himself, jesus, god the son and the spirit that blessed the apostles in pentacost all in one, because jesus was begotten and not made from a human man and woman. some teacgh that jesus IS god not to make it more confusing but thats the gist. it comes down to that since jesus was part of god and his spirit came down to bless than all three are god.
dont get too worked up over it and peace!

Vin

Answer 10

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? John 14:6-9

Acts 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

Each person of the trinity is described as God and given equal standing.

Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Matthew 28:19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Answer 11

If God is indeed omnipotent then only ONE omnipotent beng can exist. The war amongst all omnipotent beings would have ended eons ago as they battled to the last, after which, only the ONE most powerful entity would have remained as the leader. The others would have been eliminated or relegated to a lesser status.

Ergo, God is ONE, not three.