Hiya Guys and Gals
I have had dogs all my life 30 plus years now, ive had large breeds toy breeds pedigree's and mutts, i cannot for the life of me understand WHY people use these Stupid, Stupid, gadgets for there dogs, ie:- My dog will not stop barking... My pulls on the lead... My dog crys when i go out...... And what do some people give as an answer...... Get a spray collar, Get a shock collar, put pebbles in a bottle and shake it, (and scar the life out of the dog)
For goodness sake what happend to old fashion dog training, why do ppl insist on these god for saken things, if you cant control your dog without these torcher items, maybe you should not have a dog in the 1st place......
Dogs are companions, not bleeping fashion items !!!!!!!
2006-10-29 05:34:45 · 5 answers · asked by spiritxx 2 in Pets ➔ Dogs
Hey!! Some one from my generation.
Aren't those things STUPID????
What happened to good old fashioned "train the dog" is quite simple.
The owners want a quick fix, they want it now, they don't want to have to learn how to do it - or at least any more 'learning' than having read an article, go to Petsmart or watching a TV show. They want the dog "trained" in the same manner as they want their dinner fast from McDonalds. They want it made "easy." The one creates an disobedient and/or out-of-control animal in many circumstance and the other makes you fat and sick.
Being 100% consistent in anything that requires regular and constant and daily effort is not in many people's skill set.
Problem with "quick fixes" like those ridiculous head halters is they DO NOT work in the long run and are useless for many things. Try teaching a dog "come" or 'down' in one of those things. Can you imagine trying to teach a 'drop on recall" or much of anything besides 'walk on the leash so you don't jerk me flat on my face" in one of those headhalters or body harness or martingale contraptions??? (And drop on recall is a concept I introduce at the end of my basic obedience classes.)
Giving 90% of the pet owners a pinch collar is like giving a monkey a set of razor blades. They work because they are SEVERE!!
Then they spout some nonsense they heard about collars and how horrible slip/choke collars are. Well, maybe if the person is too lazy to learn how to use them. I put them on the owners wrist so they get the idea of pull-no; snap release-yes. There is a reason, however, why AKC shows prohibits those head halters and martinagle things and pinch collars from even being on the show grounds (ie: the dogs are basically out of control) and AKC obedience competitons only allow flat buckle collars or slip/choke chains. Doesn't occur to these uneducated people that maybe those who spend the time training and competing their performance dogs know more than them or the "trainer" at Petsmart who never sets foot in a competition ring to prove their skills against others.
Also wonder if they have ever taken a look at what collars Service Dogs wear in addition to their harnesses? They can take a guess and here is a hint: it is not flat buckles, it is not a head halter, it is not a body harness; it is not a martingale thing; it is not a pinch....now what is the answer??
Moreover the dogs quickly learn that the owner is dependent upon the gadget -- no gadget, GREAT - I'll do exactly as I please!
Add into that the current psycho-babble craze and it is a mess.
Lets add to the list:
"I gave my dog a 'time-out.'
Uh huh...he is going to sit in a room or his crate, figure out why he is there, think about his sins and conclude he shouldn't do that again. If a dog can do that, they should be applying to Harvard.
"I tried "tough love' by ignoring her."
Gee golly, now how is the dog supposed to reason out that they are being ignored because their owner is displeased with their behavior and not just busy cleaning the house becaue mother-in-law is coming to dinner or they are watching TV ? All the dog learns from that utterly ludicrious approach is they can do what they want.
"I only use "positive-only" training."
Goody - we can get rid of all laws with punishments if we just be nice to everyone and give them cookies (or something.) Guess that person would ALWAYS obey every speed limit even if they don't risk getting a ticket. Guess they are never ever going to ground their teenager for smoking pot - just bribe them with a new car or something.
"I "distract" him when he does something wrong."
Hmmm...seems like the dog got a twofer; (1) Got to do what he wanted and then (2) got his owner's attention and something else he likes.
"I trained him with treats - of course he won't do anything unless I have a treat.....or, gee, he doesn't always obey me even for the treat if he wants to chase the rabbit..."
Well, guess they don't mind walking around smelling like a doggy deli for the dog's entire life. And of course the dog is going to chase the rabbit if he would rather do that then come and get the treat -- you never gave him a reason that he shouldn't ignore you.
Whats really scary is these people go out and breed and can't train or teach their children any better than their puppy.
I've handled and trained everything from Chihuahuas to Great Danes. Done everything from obedience to tracking to training Service Dogs and have gotten the top performance titles offerred by the AKC. The dogs are GREAT - it is the amatuer "its too much work" "I read a book" "isn't there a faster and easier way" owners who make me nuts. I won't even tach public classes anymore. The dogs get it within 2-3 weeks - the owners take 2-3 months because it is too much work and effort for them.
(yep - up above luvropupp...just proved my point! Now can his/her doggy do a drop on recall, retrieve work by sight and by scent, hand signals for all commands, go-outs; directional patterns; hold a sit or down stay off leash in a line of dogs with mass confusion for 5-10 minutes, heel off leash through crowds out in public; track someone or something with no known starting point .... Hmmm, didn't think so.)
Happy heeling!
2006-10-29 07:32:49 · answer #1 · answered by ann a 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
i agree...it's like some people want instant nice dogs. it doesn't work that way. you have to spend time with your dogs. people think gadgets are time savers, but your dog needs you to teach him.
if you don't have time for your dog, then don't get one.
2006-10-29 13:40:52 · answer #2 · answered by Lilypie99 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
DUH these are terrible especially those dumb choker collars get a harness instead!!! and the squerty thingies will only make you dog angry/upset use words/treats/scolding for training this is th best way.
2006-10-29 14:07:01 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
God forbid they should "hurted da wittle spoiled ROTTEN brat's FEEWINGS"!!!
They can't seem to "get" that dogs aren't HUMAN either! "Fur-baby" gives me the creeps.
2006-10-29 13:39:30 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Different strokes for different folk.
2006-10-29 13:38:08 · answer #5 · answered by eugene65ca 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋