What do the words "infidle" and "jihad" REALLY mean?

Question

The Quran hasn't said that Christians and Jews are Infidles (Neither do we like this word,nor do we use it) The word infidle does not mean non-Muslem,it means athiest(Someone who doesn't believe in God/his prophet(s)/the judment day).In Islam if anybody denies one of these three factors he/she is known as infidle (Even if he/she just believes in God).Of course no one has the right to hurt the others.If you can find things related to fighting with infidles it's got something to do at that time(1400 years ago).And also just when infidles attacked Muslems they could fight them not always.As long as one lives no one has the right to hurt him/her.This is the same as murder.So Islam has never said fight the infidles,it has ordered to talk to them peacefully.Well I don't know why people think Islam has ordered Muslems to kill infidles.It hasn't.As I said itChristianity and Judaism are both great and respectful religions In Islam.And none of the Muslems think they are false (at least in Iran).There have been always debates among different religions and that's good to better understand them, but no one has the right to insult the others' religion.Insulting Jesus Christ/virgin Mary/prophet Mohammad/Islam/Christianity/Judaism/any other prophets/true religions is the same as insulting God.Because God has sent them all and they are all perfect.The only difference between religions/prophets are1.WHEN they have come and 2.HOW complete their teachings are (The second factor depends on the passage of time,as the time passed,people found new laws necessary to have a better life because of new necessities that appeared among humans).And the word Jihad, as you said, has a vast meaning.It means that Muslems MUST (This is God's order) defend themselves/Islam/their homeland/their families when it is needed (For example when someone/a groupe/another country invades them).And I suppose that's what EVERYONE would do in this world.Right? And also when someone serves his/her country/countrymen by any means,he/she is doing Jihad.(For example a teacher,a doctor,an engineer,a policeman,a soldier and so on).When a father or mother is working to meet the needs of his/her family he/she is doing Jihad.When someone is trying to teach people the truth, he/she is doing Jihad.As you see it's not only an Arabic word,but more than that.It's got very deep meanings.

To crazy s: so it is reliable translation because it is from Oxford.All religion's are friends of eachother.Go and check the truly Quran.

Answer 1

That certainly 'rambled' on a bit, but I get your point.
'Infidel' is an atheist, (as I am)! a non believer in God, and infidel is not some one following a different religion to Islam, I can go along with that!
'Jihad' You are saying is something akin to the Christian Salvation Army:- Onward Christian soldiers etc etc!!
( Although I am an atheist I really do have a lot of respect for the Salvation army group, and the work they do)However:-
To sum up, I believe (or at least I am willing to accept) your definitions of the two words!
Your 'Jihad' is really just a 'battle' of minds between Muslims and atheists, the same as the Christian Salvation Army 'Fightig against the foe' (just atheists)?
And I suppose the Christian Salvation Army are just going into a 'mental' type of battle against us unbelievers (atheists)?
Thats all OK then isnt it??
Whats all the hassle been about through the ages then? The 'Holy' war for example never really took place?? It was just a 'battle' of minds??
You may find this hard to believe but I have worked in many different Muslim countries, and even still now have Muslim friends, these friends know I am an atheist, I have chatted to a lot of them about their religion, some are devout Muslims, some are 'half and half' but I have never met one yet that actually knew what it really was he was supposed to believe in!!
Yes the vast majority could recite the Koran backwards, but that is not the same as knowing the meaning of the message given to your Prophet Mohammed!!!!
If I ever had any questions related to specifics I was always directed to some 'Mad Mullah' a teacher or leader ,of the faith!
The same of course apples to Christians, the vast majority havent a clue what it means to be a 'Christian'!! Ask your 'average' Christian "what is the Holy Trinity" They can certainly refer you to some one that can explain it all, a 'teacher' or leader!!
I was almost angry enough to venture into the realms of all round abuse here , but just because I am an atheist doesnt mean I have no feelings for my fellow man, I have and I pity the lot of you religious people as I would pity a druggy!!!!
Not much chance of the 10 points for this answer I suppose????

Answer 2

in‧fi‧del–noun

1. a. (in Religion) a person who does not accept a particular faith
b. an unbeliever
c. (in Muslim use) a person who does not accept the Islamic faith; kaffir.
2. a person who has no religious faith; unbeliever.
3. (loosely) a person who disbelieves or doubts a particular theory, belief, creed, etc.; skeptic.

as an adjective:
4. not accepting a particular faith, esp. Christianity or Islam; heathen.
5. without religious faith.
6. due to or manifesting unbelief: infidel ideas.
7. rejecting the Christian religion while accepting no other; not believing in the Bible or any Christian divine revelation.


ji‧had–noun

1. a holy war undertaken as a sacred duty by Muslims.
2. any vigorous, emotional crusade for an idea or principle.

Answer 3

SIMPLY INFADEL MEANS : dirty-non believer to MOHAMED and his teaching....JIHAD is any war Campaign that is done and organised by Muslem bealevers...looking for fuirther help...financially , military , and any kind of suport that they can get from other muslem individuals or leaders seeking to join their efforts that they are doing to protect the MUSLEM religion- customs & culture from any non-Muslem power that seriously threatens and try to destroy all these MUSLEM believes.The Koran does n't say many things...but fanatics ad many more things in theit teachings to serve their purpose.

Answer 4

Yes but in the USA everything is based on sensationalism. If there was an islamic doctor in South Carolina or someplace who was very generous and helped the sick etc. it would never be on the news. But if he was late paying his taxes or something they'd paint him as a fanatic and it would be all over the media.

Answer 5

An infidel essentially is someone who does not believe in your particular faith. Unfortunately there are both Christians and Muslims who have chosen to interpret their respective holy writings in a hard-line way that doesn't allow any room for peaceful negotiation. Words are only as good as how you understand them.

Answer 6

The last of prophets in the order of time was Malachias.

Latin Vulgate
Douay-Rheims Bible

Second Epistle Of Saint Peter
Chapter 2

1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there shall be among you lying teachers, who shall bring in sects of perdition, and deny the Lord who bought them: bringing upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their riotousnesses, through whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you. Whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their perdition slumbereth not. 4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but delivered them, drawn down by infernal ropes to the lower hell, unto torments, to be reserved unto judgment

11 Whereas angels who are greater in strength and power, bring not against themselves a railing judgment. 12 But these men, as irrational beasts, naturally tending to the snare and to destruction, blaspheming those things which they know not, shall perish in their corruption, 13 Receiving the reward of their injustice, counting for a pleasure the delights of a day: stains and spots, sporting themselves to excess, rioting in their feasts with you: 14 Having eyes full of adultery and of sin that ceaseth not: alluring unstable souls, having their heart exercised with covetousness, children of malediction

Answer 7

Many of your statements are contradicted by the Qur'an, by history, and by present day practices in Islamic regimes. Do your own homework and re-educate yourself, otherwise you might be regarded as just another propagandist.

Incidentally, "infidel" is the correct spelling.

Answer 8

Infidel:" Someone who has no religion or whose religion is not that of the majority." Jihad- "A holy war fought by Muslims against unbelievers." (Oxford Dictonary of Current English, Third Edition). You go your way, I'll go mine.

Answer 9

Quotations from the Holy Quran (Oxford University Press, The World's Classics, Translation by A.J.Arberry):

"Surely those who disbelieve in our signs--we shall certainly roast them at a fire; as often as their skins are wholly burned, we shall give them in exchange other skins, that they may taste the chastisement. Surely, God is All-Mighty, All-Wise" (Women, 59)

"This is the reward of those who fight against God and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered or crucified or they shall be banished from the land. That is the degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty Chastisement". (The Table, 37)

"Surely, they that believe, and those of Jewry, the Sabaeans, the
Christians, the Magians and the idolaters-God shall distinguish between them on the day of resurrection; assuredly, God is witness over everything..As for the unbelievers, for them garments of fire shall be cut, and there shall be poured over their heads boiled water whereby whatsoever is in their bellies and their skins shall be melted; for them await hooked iron rods; as
often as they desire in their anguish to come forth from it, they shall be restored into it, and 'Taste the chastisement of the burning." (The Pilgrimage, 17-22)

Quotations reproduced in "Islamic Law and India" by Anwar Shaikh:

"O ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers...and let them find harshness in you" (Repentance: 123)

Quotations reproduced in Islam-The Arab National Movement by Anwar Shaikh:

He told the Jews: "If you become Muslims, you will be protected; otherwise you should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and I want to expel you from this land." (Sahih Albhukhari, Vol-4)

"And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it will never be
accepted." (The House of Imran: 85)

"Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them; take not to yourself any one of them as friend or helper" (Women: 90)

"God has cursed the unbelievers and prepared a blaze for them." (The Confederates: 65)

"I have been commanded to fight against people, till they testify to the fact that there is no God but Allah, and believe in me (that) I am the messenger (from the Lord) and in all that I have brought (the Koran). And when they do it, their blood and riches are guaranteed protection on my behalf except where it is justified by law.." (Sahih Muslim: hadith 31)

"..For them (the Muslims) is reserved a definite provision, fruit and a great honour in the Gardens of Bliss reclining upon couches arranged face to face, a cup from a fountain being passed round to them, while, a pleasure to
the drinkers.. and with them wide-eyed maidens flexing their glances as if
they were slightly concealed pearls." (The Rangers)

"Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay
tribute." (Repentance IX: 29)

"Acting as Allah's soldier for one night in a battlefield is superior to
saying prayers at home for 1000 years" (Ibne Majah, vol. 2, P 166)

Quotations reproduced in "Islam and Human Rights" by Anwar Shaikh:

"The unbelievers of the People of the Book and the idolaters shall be in the
Fire; of Hell therein dwelling for ever: those are the worst of creatures,
but those who believe, and do righteous deeds, those are the best of
creatures." (The Clear Sign XCVIII: 5)

"O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of
each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them." (The
TableV: 55)

Answer 10

Surat:4.47 Allah promise to turn Christians and Jews in to APES if they don't believe in the Quraan.