DOES GOD EXIST?
“Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind.”
Who said this? Albert Einstein
Religion can use science to help prove that God does exist.
In 1916 Einstein didn’t like where his calculations were leading him. If his theory of General Relativity was true, it meant that the universe was not eternal but had a beginning. Einstein had always believed that the universe was static and eternal. That it was just here.
Einstein latter called his discovery “irritating.” He wanted the universe to be self-existent
--not reliant on any outside cause—but the universe appeared to be one giant effect.
In 1919, British cosmologist Arthur Eddington conducted an experiment during a soar eclipse which confirmed that General Relativity was indeed true—the universe wasn’t static but had a beginning. Like Einstein, Eddington wasn’t happy with the implications. He later wrote, “Philosophically the notion of a beginning of the present order of nature is repugnant to me…..I should like to find a genuine loophole.”
These were some of the most intelligent men alive at the time, great scientist. They were trying to prove that the universe was static and did not have a beginning.
In 1922 Dutch astronomer William de Sitter had found that General Relativity required the universe to be expanding.
In 1927, the expanding of the universe was actually observed by astronomer Edwin Hubble.
Hubble discovered a “red shift” in the light from every observable galaxy, which meant that those galaxies were moving away from us. In other words General Relativity was again confirmed—the universe is expanding from a single point in the distant past.
This does not mean that we are at the center. (Use balloon example)
In 1929 Einstein went to Mount Wilson to look through Hubble’s telescope for himself.
What he saw was irrefutable. The observational evidence showed that the universe was indeed expanding as General Relativity had predicted. In Einstein’s desire to show the universe was static, he later said that it was “the greatest blunder of my life,” and said that he wanted “to know how God created the world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thought, the rest are details.”
And as of today the Theory of General Relativity stands as one of the strongest lines of evidence for a theistic God. Indeed, General Relativity supports what is one of the oldest formal arguments for the existence of a theistic God—the Cosmological Argument.
THE COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
The Cosmological Argument is the argument for the beginning of the universe. If the universe had a beginning, then the universe had a cause.
In logical form, the argument goes like this:
1.Everything that had a beginning had a cause.
2.The universe had a beginning.
3.Therefore the universe had a cause.
For an argument to be true it has to be logically valid, and its premises must be true. This is a valid argument, but are the premises true?
Premise 1---Everything that had a beginning had a cause—is the Law of Causality, which is the fundamental principle of science. Without the Law of Causality, science is impossible. Because science is the search for causes. That’s what scientist do—they try to discover what caused what.
Since the Law of Causality is well established and undeniable, premise 1 is true.
Premise 2—The universe had a beginning. If it didn’t , then no cause was needed. If it did, then the universe must have had a cause.
Until the time of Einstein, atheist could comfort themselves with the belief that the universe is eternal, and thus did not need a cause.
But since then, five lines of scientific evidence have been discovered that prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the universe did indeed have a beginning. And that beginning was what scientists now call “The Big Bang”
Every so often major magazines will run a cover story like “When did the universe begin?” or “When will it end?”.
The fact that the universe had a beginning and will ultimately die is not even up for debate in the reports.
Why?
Because modern scientists know that a beginning and an ending are demanded by one of the most validated laws in all of nature—the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS
Thermodynamics is the study of matter and energy, and the Second Law states, among other things, that the universe is running out of usable energy. With each passing moment, the amount of usable energy in the universe grows smaller, leading scientists to the obvious conclusion that one day all the energy will be gone and the universe will die. Like a running car, the universe will ultimately run out of gas.
So how does this prove that the universe had a beginning?
Well, lets look at it this way: the First Law of Thermodynamics states that the total amount of energy in the universe is constant. In other words, the universe has only a finite amount of energy. If your car has 1 full tank of gas (first law), and if your car is running and consuming gas (second law), would your car be running right now if you had started it up an infinitely long time ago? No, it would be out of gas by now. In the same way, the universe would be out of energy by now if it had been running from all eternity.
But here we are and the lights are still on.
The Second Law is also know as the Law of Entropy, which is a fancy way of saying that nature tends to bring things to disorder. That is, with time, things naturally fall apart. Your car, your house, you fall apart.
But if the universe is becoming less ordered, then where did the original order come from?
Astronomer Robert Jastrow likens the universe to a wound-up clock. If a wound-up clock is running down, then someone must have wound it up.
This aspect of the Second Law tells us that the universe had a beginning. Since we still have some order left—just like we have some usable energy left—the universe cannot be eternal, because if it were, we would have reached complete disorder (entropy) by now.
THE UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING
Good scientific theories are those that are able to predict phenomena that have not yet been observed. Einstein’s General Relativity predicted the expanding universe. But it wasn’t until Edwin Hubble looked through his telescope more that 10 years later that scientists finally confirmed that the universe is expanding and that it is expanding from a single point. This expanding universe is the second line of scientific evidence that the universe had a beginning.
How does the expanding universe prove a beginning?
If we could watch a video recording of the expanding universe in reverse, we would see all matter in the universe collapse back to a single point, not even the size of a pin head, but mathematically and logically to a point that is actually nothing (i.e., no space, no time, and no matter).
In other words, once there was nothing, and then, BANG, there was something—the entire universe exploded into being! This, of course, is what is commonly called the “Big Bang.”
Is the universe expanding into empty space?
No, the universe is expanding into space that is also expanding.
There was no space before the Big Bang.
In fact, chronologically, there was no “before” the Big Bang because there are no “Befores” without time, and there was no time until the Big Bang. Time, Space, and Matter came into existence at the Big Bang.
Atheists argue that as we go back in time before the Big Bang, to when there was no time, and to where there was no space, At this time before time, they imagine a swirling dust of mathematical points which recombine again and again and again and finally come by trial and error to form our space time universe.
This position is not even scientific theory but is actually self-contradictory pop-metaphysics.
It is pop-metaphysics because it’s a made-up explanation—there’s absolutely no scientific evidence supporting it.
It also self-contradictory because it assumes time and space before there was time and space.
This is the point that an Atheist has trouble explaining the beginning. They want to put something where nothing existed.
RADIATION FROM THE BIG BANG
The 3rd line of scientific evidence that the universe had a beginning was discovered by accident in 1965. That’s when Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson detected strange radiation on their antenna at Bell Labs in Holmdel, New Jersey. No matter where they turned their antenna, this mysterious radiation remained. They initially thought it might be the result of bird droppings from the nesting Jersey Shore Pigeons, so they had the pigeons and the droppings removed. But when they got back inside, they found that the radiation was still there, and it was coming from all directions.
What they had detected turned out to be one of the most incredible discoveries of the last century—one that would win them Nobel Prizes.
They had discovered the afterglow from the Big Bang fireball explosion.
Technically known as the cosmic background radiation.
Back in 1948 3 scientists had predicted that this radiation would be out there if the Big Bang did really occur.
GREAT GALAXY SEEDS
Scientists also predicted that if the Big Bang had occurred you would see slight variations (or ripples) in the temperature of the cosmic background radiation the Penzias and Wilson had discovered.
These temperature ripples enabled matter to congregate by gravitational attraction into galaxies.
In 1989 the search for these ripples was intensified when NASA launched a satellite, carrying extremely sensitive instruments able to see whether or not these ripples actually existed in the background radiation and how precise they were.
In 1992, astronomer George Smoot, announced the findings of the satellite. He said, “If you’re religious, it’s like looking at God.”
NASA not only found the ripples, but scientists were amazed at their precision. The ripples show that the explosion and expansion of the universe was precisely tweaked to cause just enough matter to congregate to allow galaxy formation, but not enough to cause the universe to collapse back on itself.
Any slight variation and none of us would be here to talk about it.
But these temperature ripples are not just dots on a scientists graph somewhere, or just some theory. The NASA satellite actually took infrared pictures of the ripples.
Also something to keep in mind, the pictures that the satellite took are of the past.
GOD AND THE ASTRONOMERS
So the universe had a beginning. What does that mean for the question of God’s existence?
Scientist Robert Jastrow (atheist, then agnostic) observed in an interview, “Astronomers now find they have painted themselves into a corner because they have proven, by their own methods, that the world began abruptly in an act to which you can trace the seeds of every star, every planet, every living thing in this cosmos and on the earth. And they have found that all this happened as a product of forces they cannot hope to discover…that there are what I or anyone would call supernatural forces at work is now, I think, a scientifically proven fact.”
Arthur Eddington (who found his calculations “repugnant”, also an atheist, then agnostic) admitted, “The beginning seems to present insuperable difficulties unless we agree to look on it as frankly supernatural.”
Now why would Jastrow and Eddington admit that there are “supernatural” forces at work? Why couldn’t natural forces have produced the universe?
Because these scientists know as well as anyone that natural forces—indeed all of nature—were created at the Big Bang. In other words, the Big Bang was the beginning point for the entire physical universe. Time, space, and matter came into existence at that point. There was no natural world or natural law prior to the Big Bang. Since a cause cannot come after its effect, natural forces cannot account for the Big Bang. Therefore, there must be something outside of nature to do the job. That’s exactly what the word supernatural means.
Hello God!
2006-10-28 20:34:48
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answered by Messenger 3
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I didn't see your question earlier, but I'll hit this now. This is broken up into 2 possibilities. A philosopher by training and nature, I'll first take up: LOGICAL The best would be a simple deductive proof showing that a god or gods is/are a necessary being. An alternative that I would find acceptable is a logical argument based on the probability that a god or gods is a being(s) that likely exist(s). Several have been attempted, none have succeeded. Of the alternative, Brian Schlesinger came close--it really was a commendable attempt--but another plausible possibility nudges it out; god did not "probably" exist. His argument, ultimately, was a failure. "SCIENTIFIC" Ultimately, all scientific evidence boils down to sensory perception. For example, cells use optical science, which was based principle of light that we discovered by observing changes in light as they moved through glass. But no sensory perception? What the heck is science that isn't based on that in some way? It isn't really science. Please elaborate, and I might be able to answer this.
2016-05-22 04:54:08
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answered by Anonymous
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...preacher 2B has pretty much taken all the points of reference...and all I can really add is:
"nothing comes from nothing!"...the pillars of science can't deny it, and neither can we...and I'm not talking about all the religions out there, I am talking about a real god, a real intelligence that began it all, minus all the analogies and stories.
Also...I remember reading one time a quote from a top grade scientist who wrote something along the lines of - it would be a sad day if mankind discovered that "a quantum fluctuation was the cause of the beginning of the universe" and in his own opinion it was not possible(can't remember what formulas etc he wrote about), then when on to say that he would refuse to believe such a thing as it could not be possibly true...even though he was held in high esteem in the scientific community, it was one thing that would not be explained away with science(the irony is telling!)...
- "nothing comes from nothing!"......also well done to preacher 2b for taking the time for research and proper argument &...
......good question.
2006-10-28 21:25:14
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answered by 67ImpalaSS 3
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Take a look around! Do you ever notice the sun, the moon, the stars, the mountains, streams, lakes, hills, trees, flowers and all the other natural things. Do you notice that no one has ever had to go and fix the sun or fix the moon, or anything else listed above, and the trees and flowers are alive. These are what God created,
But.................
Have you noticed that roads always need repaired, houses need touchups and new paint and remodeling, cars break down and need fixed, etc. These are all man made!
Now about people. Where do you think love comes from? How do you think people were first made in the beginning and dont say sex!
Now, have you read the Bible? It tells all. It is the only true book you will ever read!
2006-10-28 20:39:58
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answered by Anonymous
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First of all I appreciate Preacher 2B for giving such a beautiful explanation about the existence of a superpower. Actually the existence of GOD is doubtful only to those who do not use their senses, if they really use their brain and see the nature one can easily understand the existence of a super power. In our day to day life we dont believe if some one say that this table in my house come automatically, we will call him fool but when the case of a universe how can people believe that it came automatically and there is no force behind it. It is just a foolish thinking to believe that there is no power behind the creation of this universe. Thanks for raising such a good question.
2006-10-28 21:01:29
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answered by Jaffs G 3
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god was an idea created by man to rely upon some unknown force when he fails to face miseries in his life and could not solve problems.primitive man due to lack of scientific temper and rational thinking used to believe that all the acts of nature like rain, lightening and sunlight and moon light as the acts of god. now after the progress of the science we know the reasons behind those acts.so scientifically and logically no body can prove that god does exist.
2006-10-28 20:42:12
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answered by Anonymous
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Scientificly, everybody worships an alien.. you'll see them a little after 2012 when i start my wars. Logically, there is a greater power created by another greater power and etc...
2006-10-28 20:34:51
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answered by 2nd Horseman 1
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he just is there! think of noahs ark search up on google images "Noahs Ark" and there is a picture which clearly shows the Ark!
he is real but you just dont know it yet. He died on the cross for us so we could go to heaven but only if WE as humans believe in him.
the bible says i am the way the truth and the life no-one gets to the father except through me.
2006-10-28 20:35:24
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answered by Anonymous
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You should know Lord. Afterall it was your people who settled this world. However some of the people that came with you had no mates and so they mated with the monkeys and apes, this is why we have blacks, reds, and yellow people her. Oh Lord take me home when you go back!
2006-10-28 20:33:33
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answered by John M 3
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What science can prove is not the only truth
Do you think till science discovered Oxygen, there was no Oxygen
God is beyond the boundaries of Science...he cant be proved...he can be experienced
2006-10-28 20:37:23
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answered by ۞Aum۞ 7
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It can't be proven. People blindly believe in stuff because they get comfort from the irrational.
2006-10-28 20:36:44
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answered by JIVE TURKEY 2
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