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Isaiah 9:6—Jesus a “Mighty God”?The Watchtower Teaching. The New World Translation renders Isaiah 9:6,
“For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the
princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace” (italics
added).
The Jehovah’s Witnesses concede that Jesus is a “mighty God” but they are
adamant that He is not God Almighty like Jehovah is.114 They further argue that
“to call Jehovah God ‘Almighty’ would have little significance unless there existed
others who were also called gods but who occupied a lesser or inferior position
The Biblical Teaching (Isaiah 10:21)

2006-10-28 16:48:46 · 7 answers · asked by Prodical Son 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

7 answers

Isaiah 9:6 refers to pre-Exilic Judah. It's got nothing to do with Jesus. It should not be applied to Jesus. Those who do are in hermeneutical error. But it's tough to let a good prophecy die.

2006-10-28 16:52:07 · answer #1 · answered by Kevin 3 · 0 2

Jesus is called Mighty God but notice that Isa 9:6 is a prophecy and the tense is FUTURE tense (will/shall). So Jesus got that position (mighty God) only after the prophecy has been fulfilled. Jehovah's position is the Almight God/Mighty God, with no beginning. The Father is greater than Jesus, and Jesus admitted that his source of life is his Father. John 5:26. Jehovah is called God of gods, just like Lord of lords, other lords exist, therefore the "gods" are created mighty ones. Unlike Jehovah who is NOT created.

2006-10-30 13:13:36 · answer #2 · answered by trustdell1 3 · 1 1

Moses was made God to Pharaoh.
(Ex 7:1)

the angel of Jehovah is said to be God (Judges 13:21,22)

the judges of Israel are said to be gods.

All the above are G/gods but not Jehovah.

All the above are spokesman for Jehovah.

Therefore the bible has established that those appointed to speak for Jehovah can be called G/god without being "false" gods.

Yes Jehovah is called Almight and Mighty, because he is.

This doesn't mean that because Jesus is called mighty, that they have to be equal. (1Cor 11:3, Rev 3:12)

When you compare Judges 13:21, 22 to John 1:1, do you insist that the angel is now part of the trinity??

2006-10-30 14:38:24 · answer #3 · answered by TeeM 7 · 1 1

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the Scriptures alone quite plainly demonstrate that Jesus and the Almighty are separate distinct persons, and the Almighty created Jesus as His firstborn son.

(Colossians 1:15) the firstborn of all creation

(Mark 10:18) Jesus said to him: 'Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.

(Revelation 3:14) the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God

(Philippians 2:5-6) Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God's form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God

(John 8:42) Neither have I come of my own initiative at all, but that One sent me forth

(John 12:49) I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak

(John 14:28) I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am

(1 Corinthians 15:28) But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him

(Matthew 20:23) this sitting down at my right hand and at my left is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father

(1 Corinthians 11:3) I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; ...in turn the head of the Christ is God

(John 20:17) I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.

(Deuteronomy 6:4) Jehovah our God is one Jehovah

(1 Corinthians 8:4-6) There is no God but one. For even though there are those who are called "gods," whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many "gods" and many "lords," there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him

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2006-10-31 12:16:24 · answer #4 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 0 1

Jehovah Himself is called “Mighty God” (using the same Hebrew word).116
The very fact that Jehovah is called “Mighty God” completely obliterates the
Watchtower argument that the expression must refer to a lesser deity as opposed to
“Almighty God.” And because Jehovah is called “Mighty God,” the fact that Jesus
too is called “Mighty God” points to His equality with God the Father.
In further support of this, you might want to point out that Jehovah is called
“Mighty God” in Jeremiah 32:17-18: “Ah Lord God! Behold, Thou hast made the
heavens and the earth by Thy great power and by Thine outstretched arm! Nothing
is too difficult for Thee, who showest lovingkindness to thousands, but repayest
the iniquity of fathers into the bosom of their children after them, O great and
mighty God. The LORD [Jehovah] of hosts is His name” (italics added).117
In view of the fact that both Jehovah and Jesus are called “Mighty God,” you
might want to ask the Jehovah’s Witness:
• Since Jehovah is called “Mighty God” (Isa. 10:21) just as Jesus is
called “Mighty God” (9:6), doesn’t this mean the Watchtower
Society is wrong in saying that the designation “Mighty God”
indicates a lesser deity? If Jesus is a Mighty God just as Jehovah is a Mighty God, what does
this tell you about Jesus’ divine nature?
• If Jehovah is a “Mighty God” and if Jesus is a “Mighty God,” then
how can there not be two Mighty Gods in heaven unless the
doctrine of the Trinity is true?
To emphasize that there is no more than one Mighty God in heaven, you will
want to cite the following verses:
• Isaiah 44:6b: “I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God
besides Me.”
Reasoning from the Scriptures with the Jehovah’s Witnesses —Chapter 5
178
• Isaiah 44:8b: “Is there any God besides Me, Or is there any other
Rock? I know of none.”
• Isaiah 45:5a: “I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me
there is no God.”
In view of these verses, ask the Jehovah’s Witness:
• How do relate these verses in Isaiah 44 and 45 to Isaiah 10:21 which
says that Jehovah is a Mighty God and Isaiah 9:6 which says that
Jesus is a Mighty God?To further substantiate your case, you might want to point out that the phrase
“Mighty God” translates the Hebrew word, Elohim. Elohim is a very common
name for God in the Old Testament and is used about 2,570 times there. It literally
means “strong one,” and its plural ending (im in Hebrew) indicates fullness of
power.118 Elohim is portrayed in the Old Testament as the powerful and sovereign
governor of the universe, ruling over the affairs of humankind. As related to God’s
sovereignty, the word Elohim is used to describe Him as the “God of all the earth”
(Isa. 54:5), the “God of all flesh” (Jer. 32:27), the “God of heaven” (Neh. 2:4), and
the “God of gods and Lord of lords” (Deut. 10:17).
With this backdrop in mind, you will want to point out to the Jehovah’s
Witness that in Isaiah 40:3, Jesus is called both Yahweh (Jehovah) and Elohim in
the same verse: “In the desert prepare the way for the Lord [Yahweh]; make
straight in the wilderness a highway for our God [Elohim].” This verse was written
in reference to the future ministry of Jesus Christ (see John 1:23), and represents
one of the strongest affirmations of Christ’s deity in the Old Testament. As well, in
referring to “our God” (as opposed to “their” God [of the New Testament]) Isaiah
was affirming that Jesus Christ was the God of both the Old and New Testaments.
Clearly, the Watchtower teaching that Jesus is a lesser god than Jehovah is
emphatically wrong.

2006-10-28 23:55:15 · answer #5 · answered by Witness4Christ 1 · 1 2

I would suggest you read the King James or "New King James" version of the Bible to answer your questions. Cults are famous for writing their own versions of the Bible to suit their own needs, and "prove" their doctrines--many of which are heretical--directly contradicting what the Bible truly says. In the book of Revelation it says a curse will come upon those who do so. Jesus said, he who has seen Me has seen has seen the Father also. And, "I and the Father are one."
-Spec

2006-10-29 00:05:22 · answer #6 · answered by Spec 2 · 1 2

No, Jesus and the Father are one.

2006-10-28 23:50:28 · answer #7 · answered by Daniel 2 · 1 1

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