Which logical fallacy is being made in these remarks?

Question

I. Christians are a bunch of weak-minded sheep because they never think for themselves.
II. Christians can’t argue their point because they all rely on blatant lies and fallacies.

Please provide the name of the informal logical fallacy in your answer.

Answer 1

Hmmm...

I have two answers, one for each: The first statement sounds to me like "begging the question." Begging the question is where you assume the truth of your conclusion in your premise(s); it is related to circular arguments. The second statement sounds like a non sequitur, where the conclusion simply doesn't follow from the premise(s). An example of a non sequitur might be: Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Socrates is a fish.

In your first statement, never thinking for oneself is kind of the definition of a "weak-minded sheep." So, you can't really say that Christians are weak-minded because they don't think for themselves. That's like saying Joe is evil because he's not good. It doesn't prove anything. Rather, you'd have to do something to establish the fact that they don't think for themselves.

Anyways, "weak-minded sheep" is hardly the language of a good logical proposition.

Your second statement seems more like a non-sequitur to me. Whether Christians rely on lies and fallacies actually has nothing to do with whether they're able to argue their points or not. In fact, the reason why lies and fallacies are often so appealing to people is because they believe it helps them to argue their points. It's much more difficult to try to be logical, and logic rarely sways the crowd so well as appeals to emotion, ad hominems, etc. See: political campaign strategies.

Now, if your point here is that critics of Christianity are often as illogical as they accuse Christians of being... well, fine, granted. Let's just agree that neither side has many saints, problem there being that one side routinely claims that it's nothing but.

Answer 2

Rats, I just read an argument on fallacie in persuation, and I can't even remember which ones they are.

Hmm...
not circular reasoning
not hidden assumtion
not the prejudice fallacy
not the mutilated statistics fallacy
not the, well...it's some what an improvable fact fallacy. Because you're judging a group of people of whom you've only met a few.

I can't remember which it is, my bad.

Answer 3

We know it's the ad hominem fallacy but I can't conceive of why you would ask that question. Actually I do suspect your reasoning but if I'm right your intellectual dishonesty is horrendous.

Answer 4

sounds like somebody ignorant, equipped with a one-track mind.

not every christian is a retard because they quote the bible. christians tend to think for themselves, sometimes.

it's just like how atheists and non-religious folk rely on science for their arguments. christians rely on the bible for their arguments. you can only argue about what you know, and what you know is what you believe (bible, science, nihilist, etc). if one's gonna call all christians sheep, you may as well call all atheists sheep.

Answer 5

Sounds like an ad hominem. Insult the arguer instead of the argument.

Answer 6

It is a "total mistake" that you are saying these horrible things about christians. God IS awesome and no matter how you want to bash christians, that will not change it.

you are incorrect in your questions.

God Bless you---

Answer 7

both are correct