If Christians have to always ask for forgiveness and repent, then what was the point of Jesus death?

Question

isn't God who has the power of forgiviness, God already can forgive in the old testimony without no one getting killed or sacrificing himself. and bad people are not equal to good people.

and if people still have to repent and ask for forgiviness, then what was the point of jesus death?

Answer 1

In the old testament, people were required to sacrifice animals in order to be forgiven. The purpose of Jesus' death was so that we would no longer have to do that. His death also paved the way for Gentiles to 'be saved' without having to convert to Judaism.

Answer 2

Well, in the first place, there really are no "good" people. The scripture tells us that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Jesus dies to bring us the opportunity to be forgiven. That is the basis of Christianity. When someone who is a Christian does sin (because we still do) we ask God to forgive us because we know that when we do something wrong it brings a hinderance in our relationship with God.

Think of it like this. A boy and his father are walking down a road. The boy picks up a rock and throws it at a a window. His father is displease with him and the son says I am sorry please forgive me. Then the father goes to where the window is broken and helps the boy fix it. The boy doesn't stop being the father's child because he sinned.

Oh, by the way that boy was adopted into the family, he was originally in another family that was bad. The man who adopted him saw how hard life was for him and sent his son to pay for the boy to be releaseed from the bad family. But the payment that had to be made in order for that boy to become adopted, was the fathers real son had to give his life, which he willingly did.

Answer 3

Jesus opened the door to Heaven so that people could enter into heaven.

Once Saved Always Saved is a man made dogma, that is not Biblical.

Consider:
Eph 2:8 Grace Alone, not Faith alone
1 Tim 1:19 Faith can be shipwrecked
1 Tim 4:1 Faith can be departed from
1 Tim 5:8 Faith can be disowned
1 Tim 6:10 Faith can be wandered from
1 Tim 6:21 Faith can be missed

Phil 2:12 Faith is a life long process
Mt 15:18-20 Thoughts are accountable
Mt 25: 31-46 Actions are rewarded or punished
James 3:6-12 Words are accountable

Just to name a few. Ask for forgiveness on your journey of faith, for we still fall short in this life.

Answer 4

Needing to understand repenting in this context might answer your question, if you put a little thought into it. Repenting is more than saying, or feeling sorry. True repentance involves some action on your part; turning away from the sin, or not acting on the temptation that you're sorry about. If you're actually honest in your intentions, God will know.
That is when forgiveness takes place. It is by Jesus' sacrifice by dying on the cross that pays the penalty for our act of offending a Holy God. You need to ask for forgiveness to receive it. It's pretty obvious that God doesn't act unless He's asked, or if He decides it is necessary to fulfill scripture, or if He decides to. Who are we to question Him?

Answer 5

First, we must ask the purpose of Christ's death, which was to provide a sacrifice once and for all for all of humanity that we might be reconciled to God. This being said, Christ's death made the animal sacrifices of the Old Testament obsolete. The Old Covenant of Abraham and Moses was replaced by the New Covenant in Christ. That is why the Old system of sacrifice is no longer necessary.

Second, scripture is quite clear that there is no difference between "good" and "bad" people. All people are bad in God's sight. We all fall short of His ultimate standard of perfection.

But like I said Christ was the final sacrifice for all. Therefore, our sins have already been "forgiven." All we need to do is ask. The point of Christ's death was to "set us free from the law of sin and death."

As others have said, check out the book of Romans. It is a treatise to your question.

Answer 6

Jesus did not have to die for peoples sins. His life was an example of how to love God. God new the people would kill him and and that would show his greatness that even though they killed him he forgave them. But he could have taken every ones sins without dieing on the cross. That idea came up in recent history. Believing in Jesus is just the first step in getting rid of sins. To use the excuse that Jesus died for my sins now I can do any damn thing I want is demonic. Why did he say "GO and sin no more" That was an instruction. If you sin you will have to pay and he will take some of the pain but he also wants you to learn the lesson. So don't put any more pain on Jesus. Go to krishnaculture.com and get You mean that's in the Bible by Satyaraja dasa

Answer 7

forgiveness in god's world isn't free. the law of perfection is holy. the punishment for breaking the law is death. everyone breaks the law. everyone deserves death.

god cannot change his own laws but he can provide a perfect sacrifice so that we are no longer bound by the law. In the OT, the sacrifice was a lamb ever so often. In the NT, the sacrifice is the LAMB who is the ultimate sacrfice once and for all.

True repentance is not about trying to be a sinless person. True repentance is looking towards Christ solely for your salvation and depending on him during times of joy and sorrow. It is not about being holier than thou in public and making yourself look more spiritual than others.

Answer 8

God will not look upon sin or the sinner. He will not look upon the uncleaned person. Jesus died on the cross so our sins will be forgiven and washe clean by the blood of Jesus.

People think that to repent is to just tell Jesus that they are sorry for committing a sin. It does not stop there. You must look deep insider yourself to see what part of you wants to commit that sin, over and over again. You cannot repent of a sin, and go out and commit that same sin again again and again. That is not what repentance is.

It's being remorseful for your sin, and changing that part of your self that committed that sin. You are not allowed to repeat that same sin again and again and again. Why? Because once you told Jesus that you were sorry for doing somthing that you knew was wrong, Jesus will tell you, Your sins are forgiven, now go and sin no more. Do not repeat that sin again.

It's hard work to try to keep from repeating old sinful habits. But through prayer and bible study, God will give you to tools and the way to strengthen yourself to resist the temptation to repeat former acts of sin.

Repentance must be sincere, and not just what you think Jesus wants to hear from you. He knows the difference between a real repentanted sin and just going through the motions. He;s not stupid. He knows exactly how many hairs you have on your entire body. He know more about you than you know about your self.

If you do not make the honest effore to change the parts of your self that causes you to commit the sins you "repented for" you have not repented at all, but lied to Jesus.

The guarenteed way to help you change the parts of you that you need to change in order to be rightous in the eyes of God is study His word daily. Through the reading of God's word, the Holy Spirit will change you when you don't even know it's happening until God decides to reveal those changes to you Himself.

There is room to improve one's self in all of us. And we can't do it alone. We need Jesus to help us with that every day.

Answer 9

Just because Jesus died and paid the price for our sins does not mean you will not be required to aknowledge that sacrifice and confess your sins. It requires acceptance of the sacrifice of Christ to be forgiven. The price has already been paid for you, all you have to do is accept it. Once you confess your sins to God and ask that the blood of Jesus atone for those sins, you are forgiven. You must try not to repeat the sin you were forgiven for after that.

Think of it this way, suppose you commited a crime and were arrested. You went to court and the judge said you would have to pay a fine or go to jail. Let's say a stranger stepped up and offered to pay the fine you could not afford to pay for yourself. Would you accept it or reject it? Would you rather reject it and pay for your own crime?
If you rejected the offer, the judge would have to hold you accountable for your own fine. If you did not have the money, he would send you to jail.

It is this way with the Almighty, the ultimate judge. Because He is just and loving, He has already provided a way out of the condemnation of our sins. He will not hold us accountable if we accept the price that Jesus paid for us. If we do not accept that atonement for our sins, we have to be accountable for them ourselves.

God is just and righteous and does not wish any to be condemned, however, we are the ones that choose whether we want the salvation that Christ died for or not.

Answer 10

My answer is probably difficult to grasp but I am challenge by your question. God forgives even to those unrepentant but Jesus lead us the way from a state of hopelessness to one that gives us the opportunity to go back to where we came from without having to go thru the torment Jesus undergone in the hands of the Romans. A more technical answer requires understanding about ego and karma which this forum, i believe, could not adequately provide the venue for longer discussions.

God bless.