Why do christians or non christians state that no one is perfect? Have they not studied there bible?

Question

Did they just skip this verse
Genesis 6:9
These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
2 Chronicles 15:17
Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Perfect just means to be mature, whole, things like that...

Answer 1

actually if you study further, it also describes Enoch, job and Noah as being perfect. You might want to consider that Issaish was taken up by God much like Enoch so he might be another candidate. and John the revelator was promised NOT to taste death because of His Great faith in wanting Preach the gospel to the people of earth.
I have taught that perfection is obtainable. afterall if true repentance is confessing sin and forsaking it altogether than eventuall a person come to the "last" sin he needs to repent of. in this sense of the word alone, perfection is achieved. in the sense with the help of the bloodatonment of the savor, we become sinless and washed clean.
However, there are those theologians which disagree with this definition. The word generations could be intepreted as genealogy. or others says Noah was Undefiled by the scourge of nephelim. That his DNA was not corrupted by his parents being decieved by the fallen angels and the sodomites and fornicators.
so remember lots wife, and remember that the bible does declare two other prophets of being perfect in the same sentence with NOaH.

Answer 2

Oh, I've studied the Bible more than a few times in my life and as far as I know, neither of these men were "perfect".

Noah, for example, was apparently a drunk and nudist after the Flood incident.

Genesis 9:20-21: Noah, a man of the soil, was the first to plant a vineyard. He drank some of the wine and became drunk, and he lay uncovered in his tent.

Doesn't sound like he was all that perfect to me, to get so wasted he lay around naked in his tent all day.

Job, however, read through that tonight, but it seems his only apparent sin was being so perfect and blessed that he didn't know how people less fortunate than him lived and suffered, hence his trial. So I suppose in a sense, perfection can be seen as a flaw in terms of how the perfect person fails to understand imperfect people around them.

However, your definition of the word perfect is lacking. It does not mean mature and whole. Let's find Webster and see what he has to say...

Perfect: adj, from the Latin per(through) + facere(do). 1. complete in all respects; flawless. 2. excellent, as in skill or quality. 3. completely accurate.

There's more to it, mostly grammatical definitions and uses that obviously don't apply here.

Answer 3

Firstly, if Job was perfect, why did God need to correct his self-righteousness? And I seem to recall that Noah had a little problem with wine.

Secondly, be careful of translations. The precise definition of a translated word is not equal to the precise definition of the word translated. Read other translations.

Other translations read:
Genesis 6:9 -- "This is the account of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, BLAMELESS among the people of his time, and he walked with God."

Job 1:1 -- "In the land of Uz there lived a man whose name was Job. This man was BLAMELESS and upright; he feared God and shunned evil."

Answer 4

You do know that one word may have many meanings.

Perfect : flawless; with no imperfections. In this sense, nobody, including Noah and Job, is perfect.

In the New Testament, Christians are commanded to be "perfect, even as your heavenly Father is perfect" :Mat 5:48 Ye therefore shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Now, a better question is, "Can someone be as perfect as God?" That depends on your meaning of 'perfect'.

A parallel passage explains this :Luke 6:36 Be ye merciful, even as your Father is merciful.

So, Perfect = merciful.

Is there anyone flawless? No. Are there people who are merciful? Yes.

Answer 5

When we confess our sins as its says in 1 john 1:9 He at that moment forgives us our sins and we are perfect but ONLY IN CHRIST are we made perfect, the ONLY person that had no sins that lived A "Perfect" life is The Second member of The Godhead Jesus Christ, "For all have sinned and falled short of the glory of God Romans 3:23 and that includes Noah and Job, and you and me, ONLY in Christ are we made perfect, free bible lessons, learn more www.itiswritten.com God bless, hay visit A Seventh Day Adventist Church in your area.

Answer 6

A popular and widely accepted meaning of “perfect” is “sinless,” a definition not found in the dictionary. Instead, Webster says that the word “perfect” means “to finish”

The words in the Hebrew Old Testament and in the Greek New Testament translated “to be perfect” (tamam, teleioo, katartizo, akribos), according to the lexicons, have several meanings: to finish, to complete, to make whole, to be perfect, to make mature, to fulfill, but never to be sinless.

Answer 7

In the Old Testament, it is possible that "perfection" equates to following God's law perfectly. That is, Noah and Job, bound by the old covenant, followed the Ten Commandments to a "T."

The old covenant having ended with the birth of Christ Jesus, people no longer have the option of following the law perfectly and being pleasing to God. That choice is off the table, since God has clearly shown that the only way to him now is through his Son Christ.

Noah and Job were born with original sin, but they loved God and sought to serve him in all things. Their behavior did not cancel out their original sin, but their striving to serve God pleased God, and their willingness and ability to follow his law likewise pleased him. They did the best that men could do before Christ, loving God with all their heart, strength, and mind, but not having been offered salvation.

Since Jesus came and died for our sins, however, a person who is willing and able to follow God's old covenant and who has not the humility to accept God's gift of salvation through Christ is no longer pleasing to God.

I hope that this explanation makes sense. You do not see anyone in the New Testament referred to as perfect except God.

Answer 8

Like the Hellenic polytheist said... only with me its Norse... Asatru. Truthfully, when you see or feel the calling, I mean, what choice do you have? You get a feeling that something out there has taken an interest in you, you can either run and hide in the corner rocking back and forth repeating to yourself "no, no, no, no, no" or you can say Okie Dokie and start following the path that not only is pointed out to you, but makes perfect sense to you.

Answer 9

Because people believe that only God is perfect. How could anyone compare to Him?

Besides, Noah and Job don't live here right now, so still no one IS perfect. :P

Answer 10

Yes, but he was a decentednt from adam and eve. They had sinned they passed sin down. If you dented a bread-pan, the rest of the bread you made would have that dent. After adam and eve sinned, The only other perfect human was jesus while on earth.