I am a law student at OCU and as part of my Pre-trial litigation class, I am paired with a partner and put up against two other students (opposing firms). In our discovery request, we asked whether the fictitious subject had been "treated for any chronic disease or defect," the other firm responded "no." As it turns out they have information that the fictious victim was diagnosed via a blood test for a chronic disease but had not received further treatment. I am filing a "complaint" against them in our class (they get docked 5 points, we get a boost 5 pts). If this was a real trial, I would get avidavidts from doctors. However, since it is not, I am putting it to yahoo answers. So, in your professional opinion, does "treatment" include diagnosis via blood test? In your source box please tell me what your position is (ie RN, LPN, Dr. etc or any dictionary etc you may have used) Thank you.
2006-10-28 05:21:28 · 11 answers · asked by superchrisw 2 in Science & Mathematics ➔ Medicine
It is needed to make a test as an important tool to arrive to a certain diagnosis, then out of the diagnosis made, treatment can be given as required and if indicated.
Your question says :Is diagnosis included in "treatment"? Diagnosis is different from treatment so it is not proper to say diagnosis includes treatment. The other firm had their point by saying no. The victim could have been diagnosed, but after the diagnosis no any treatment action has been done or received. Such claim can be absolutely true.
Diagnosis is necessary before any treatment. As you see, a treatment cannot be given without diagnosis. We have to know what is the problem to give solution. How a doctor can decide what treatment to do if the problem is not known? For medical professionals; physical examinations , laboratory tests, radiological and imaging investigations, etc. are needed to arrive to a certain diagnosis so that treatment can be decided.
On the other hand, sometimes diagnosis is made and for some reasons, no treatment is done. Sometimes, the diagnosis has been arrived and the patient requires invasive treatments so nothing will be given for the meantime and patient will be referred to another unit or facility to receive proper treatment. Sometimes there are certain rules to be met before treatment can be initiated. Sometimes patient refuses to get treated. Sometimes patient is non-compliant to the given schedule to come for treatment as planned. Another reason could be the diagnosis does not require any treatment, and many other reasons.♥
2006-10-28 06:48:11 · answer #1 · answered by ♥ lani s 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Diagnosis and treatments are different things but the former is the prelude for the latter. Let me explain this with an example:
Patient X comes into the hospital and is admitted. The attending physician then goes and takes a complete history. With a good history and some clinical test like reflex testing, he comes up with an intial diagnosis. Then he orders a complete blood count. That will take up to 3 days. So during that period he can have an initial treatment form based on his intial diagnosis. When he gets the lab report, he may have to change his intial diagnosis. Based on that, he may have to change his treatment plan. So a good diagnosis forms the basis of a good treatment plan. For chronic disease such as herpes simplex 1 and 2(that have latency, ie cannot be eradicated), the only form of treatment is to reduce the symptoms but not to eradicate it. Therefore treatment can be for eradication or for control of symptoms.
2006-10-28 13:09:49 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
No, diagnosis is just assessing the victim's condition, deciding what the victim has and what might be an effective course of treatment.
Diagnosis and treatment are two separate things, although one often follows the other.
These are you own words, "victim was diagnosed via a blood test for a chronic disease but had not received further treatment." No treatment was given.
2006-10-28 06:34:10 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
No. Diagnosis and treatment are completely separate. As a lawyer, you need to ask better questions!
Diagnosis is figuring out what is causing a patient's symptoms.
Treatment involves interventions to alter the course of the disease, alleviate symptoms, halt the progression, etc.
In real life, your request should have asked if the patient had been diagnosed with, suspected of having, or treated for any acute or chronic disease, ailment or defect..... or something to that effect.
The other side answered truthfully, and, as lawyers know, you NEVER give the other side more information than they ask for!
2006-10-28 09:03:31 · answer #4 · answered by Pangolin 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
A patient if first diagnosed by lab work or x-ray or other tests. This does not include treatment.
The patient is given the diagnoses and then decides if they will proceed with treatment.
So diagnoses is phase I
treatment phase II
By asking if the subject had been treated for a chronic disease and they answered no, it is the truth if they haven't started treatment yet.
Next time you should expand your question to Have you ever been diagnosed or treated for a chronic disease or defect.
As a future lawyer you will need to develop questions so concise that you cover all the bases in the question so the opposing side can't find a loop hole to hide in.
2006-10-28 05:32:46 · answer #5 · answered by bramblerock 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
diagnosis is separate from treatment.
treatment occurs after diagnosis. blood test would be part of the diagnosis process. (unless they were on medication and the blood test was needed to monitor the effect of the medication- but that would be treatment).
so, i would the other firm, technically, was correct in saying "no", even though there was a diagnosis.
2006-10-28 06:12:19 · answer #6 · answered by mahz85 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Diagnosis is not included in treatment.
It is included in management of patient.
There's some diagnostic treatment in some developing countries where diagnostic tests are out of reach.
2006-10-29 01:52:15 · answer #7 · answered by elle 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Has your suspect smoked any chronic? 3 points! Treatment includes chronic blood tests, How is his stool? Does it wipe clean? Have you ever had a doctor ask you that question? My cardiologist used to always ask me that. Now nobody asks. Are they not doing there job? Are they embarrassed or was my cardiologist just a horny, freaky, pervert? I really want to talk about my stool sometimes but I'm afraid to bring it up. I think when I make the appointment I should bring it in a baggie. I heard you can become addicted to stool softeners. They're so soft and squishy. It's really amazing. Butt to come off of it you have to take methadone, do the 10 step program, CA, (constipation anonymous). It can really bite.
2006-10-28 06:04:14 · answer #8 · answered by nomatt3r 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋
A blood test is what it is...a TEST. It can diagnose a disease or indicate further testing. Once the disease is identified, treatment options should be offered to the patient, and it is up to the patient to consent to his choice of treatment (informed consent). So my answer is NO, treatment is not included...
2006-10-28 05:28:20 · answer #9 · answered by Roxy 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Oooooohhhhhhh I had the hottest sexy chick of a doctor, you would have thought so too! Too bad she move so far away.....dang, her husband was hot too and also a doctor.....but I'd rather have her do all my physical inspections any day! I love them sweet sexy hottie chick doctors the best!!!!!!
2016-03-28 10:06:54 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋