Hermann Eisenmann. Born Bavaria 1858. Ancester Search?

Question

Hi. A long shot I know!

My Great Grandfather came for Bavaria to London. Worked as a violin repairer. Married Margaret, had two sons and early in the 1900s, left his family and returned to Bavaria.

Anyone got any info at all about him please?

Thanks

Thanks Mcfifi. Great effort! Confirmed my search on Ancesters so far but I had not clocked the kids were not at home in 1901. conrad was my grandfather and gerald his brother. Just the two.

Still leaves me with the bounder Hermann leaving his family and going back to Bavaria! That is the blind alley I am at......when do he sod off back and does anyone in Bavaria able to help?

Thanks

Thanks all so far. A real lot of good advice.

hjz. For you. His sons, Conrad b 1888 and Gerald b 1890, changed their names to that of mothers, Holdsworth. Joined the army in Canada. Thanks!

You can e mail on this site!

hjz. Thanks so much for your hard work. Click on my picture and you will see you can e mail me. Or as you have my name of the ancester site, I am adrian holdsworth! You can contact me via that site. Ahead of uyou on research. Still nothing on Hermann the leave family and go back to Bavaria, great grandfather. Lots on my grandfather. Got his draft card from america where he joined up and his medals card. So canada wrong. Good site though as other relative joined from canada. None died in war.

If no luck on getting me, sod it get me on:

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Answer 1

Hey Always Up For It!,

My path would be to the birth records for Margaret and Hermann. You can surf through the link URL I provided below, and find an approparite place to get the records from. Buy the records! They are worth it.

Answer 2

The 1891 census has Hermann Eisenmann aged 34 Violin Maker born in Bavaria living at Duedine House, Bedford Hill Road, Streatham London.

He was living with his wife Margaret nee Holdsworth aged 40 born Stepney, London, his sons Conrad aged 3 and Gerald aged 1 and his mother in law Emm Holdsworth aged 84.

Answer 3

The 1901 census shows Hermann Eisenmann, born Bavaria in 1858.

He was living at 41 Marina, Hastings, Sussex, with his wife Margaret and his mother in law Emma J Holdsworth.
His occupation was "retired string instrument maker".

His wife was born in Stepney, London, in 1851.

His mother in law was born in Hertfordshire in 1808.

The marriage records for July/Aug/Sep 1885 show Hermann Eisenmann marrying Margaret Jane Holdsworth at Lewisham in London.

There is a birth record for a Conrad Hermann Eisenmann born Apr/May/June 1888 in Wandsworth, London. This may be his son?

Other possible children, all with the surname Eisenmann, are:

Gerald Holdsworth born Jan/Feb/Mar 1890 Wandsworth (a good bet as the middle name is the same as the mother's maiden name)

Leah born Oct/Nov/Dec 1908 St James Westminster

Maud Elsa born Apr/May/Jun 1888 Islington

Sybil Doris born Jul/Aug/Sep 1891 Pancras

As Conrad Hermann and Maud Elsa were born round the same time at different locations, they can't both be the children of this couple.

The fact that none of these children is listed in the 1901 census is a problem. Maybe they died young? Or were living with other relatives?

Or maybe Hermann and his wife and mother in law were on holiday in Hastings at the time of the census?

If you want to buy copies of marriage or birth certificates you can do so at:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Certificates cost £7 each.

PS Just had a look at the 1881 census. Hermann was living at 2 Charlton Street, Marylebone, was single, and his occupation was violin repairer. There's no listing for him in the 1891 census.

Answer 4

yesterday i was looking for something else and had a list which i have to find again .i will come back if i can find it ....
i am interested in this ....give me time ,it is late where i am,so i may not find just yet ? i am in France ,bed time .but i made a note of your question and will come back as soon as i recall my findings ))
came back .i was thinking that perhaps i could find some ancestors of the first war 14/18 ?but thus far nothing (
have to look some more ,sorry it is late here ,
will be back again )))

back again , i went trough the list of some of the soldiers that participated in the first war to look if perhaps i could find anyone who would have your grandfather'name ,thus far ? nothing ((
i am putting the link here so you may check it out ,unfortunately it is in French but you can see the names ....on the left all the countries are listed and you can click on it to see ,sorry i could not find it in English
http://dersdesders.free.fr/allemagne.htm...
there's an email where one can write to ask ,
[e-mail]
good luck in your search ))

i will search for a link in german ,such as the census bureau ,and come again ))

thank you for reading me , i will go back to the link and check for the name you gave me ........
i will be back again in a few )))

here is a census bureau of genealogy of Canada , it is very long !please look trough it and i will search else where ......
http://ftp.aset.psu.edu/genealogy/roots-l/genealog/genealog.lc-can ))

oh ,i am so upset .i forgot to send my last message with the list of all Holdsworth a while ago ! just cannot find it again grrrrrrrr !
i found a cemetary list of all Canada ,this link may be a paying link?
https://secure.ancestry.ca/register/guestregistration.aspx?ancuuid=KdBW8Dh9QzUqMsg56CQ2pD&ti=5543&ti.s

adrianholdsworth1 Contact Has a PUBLIC tree that includes:
Tree Name: Holdsworth Family Tree
Name: Conrad Holdsworth
Birth: 1888 - Wandsworth
Residence: 1891 - Wandsworth, London
http://ancestry.com/community.search.

this is you answer for 6 hours ago :#You can e mail on this site!#
what do you mean ?which site ?

thank you for your email ,i will get in touch with you very soon ,and it is late here again .......;
will look some more as soon as i can )))
sincerely