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I Posted this a little while ago, but neglected to state that it was a statement by Richard Dawkins, and not my own words. I was simple interested in you comments
America, founded in secularism as a beacon of eighteenth century enlightenment, is becoming the victim of religious politics, a circumstance that would have horrified the Founding Fathers. The political ascendancy today values embryonic cells over adult people. It obsesses about gay marriage, ahead of genuinely important issues that actually make a difference to the world. It gains crucial electoral support from a religious constituency whose grip on reality is so tenuous that they expect to be 'raptured' up to heaven, leaving their clothes as empty as their minds. More extreme specimens actually long for a world war, which they identify as the 'Armageddon' that is to presage the Second Coming. Sam Harris, in his new short book, Letter to a Christian Nation, hits the bull's-eye as usual:
"It is, therefore, not an exaggeration to say that if the city of New York were suddenly replaced by a ball of fire, some significant percentage of the American population would see a silver-lining in the subsequent mushroom cloud, as it would suggest to them that the best thing that is ever going to happen was about to happen: the return of Christ... Imagine the consequences if any significant component of the U.S. government actually believed that the world was about to end and that its ending would be glorious. The fact that nearly half of the American population apparently believes this, purely on the basis of religious dogma, should be considered a moral and intellectual emergency."
Does Bush check the Rapture Index daily, as Reagan did his stars? We don't know, but would anyone be surprised? My scientific colleagues have additional reasons to declare emergency. Ignorant and absolutist attacks on stem cell research are just the tip of an iceberg. What we have here is nothing less than a global assault on rationality, and the Enlightenment values that inspired the founding of this first and greatest of secular republics. Science education - and hence the whole future of science in this country - is under threat. Temporarily beaten back in a Pennsylvania court, the 'breathtaking inanity' (Judge John Jones's immortal phrase) of 'intelligent design' continually flares up in local bush-fires. Dowsing them is a time-consuming but important responsibility, and scientists are finally being jolted out of their complacency. For years they quietly got on with their science, lamentably underestimating the creationists who, being neither competent nor interested in science, attended to the serious political business of subverting local school boards. Scientists, and intellectuals generally, are now waking up to the threat from the American Taliban.

2006-10-27 12:23:43 · 9 answers · asked by trouthunter 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Wow, Mr. Dawkins literally is arguing for the opposite of reality in this quote.

This country was founded by men who wanted religious freedom to be one of the most important rights necessary for the establishment and development of a true democracy.

Where do you see any reference, even an implied argument, about science in the Constitution?

The forces of rationality and science have been slowly chipping away at the foundation of religion and faith, to the point where anyone who even seems to be supporting religion is looked down upon, and anyone who seems to support science in any way is praised or at least thought well of.

This is the largest distortion of reality I have seen in a while.

2006-10-27 12:35:16 · answer #1 · answered by STILL standing 5 · 0 4

Part 2? It looks pretty much the same as the last one - with the exception of the intro.

2006-10-27 12:26:36 · answer #2 · answered by jewel_flower 4 · 2 0

Richard Dawkins also believes that no human being should be held responsible nor punished for his actions because mankind has no "free will."

Here is a scary quote from him:

" I mean when we punish people for doing the most horrible murders, maybe the attitude we should take is 'Oh they were just determined by their molecules.' It’s stupid to punish them. What we should do is say 'This unit has a faulty motherboard which needs to be replaced.'”

Read more about this nut here:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/

2006-10-27 12:32:16 · answer #3 · answered by The_Answer 2 · 0 3

This man you quote is intolerant, short-sighted, and seems to lump all Christians in the same boat. Just as all Muslims are not terrorists, not all Christians are scientific morons.

Would you take the interpretation of the bible from one source as the right one? Them why take this man's interpretation of all Christians as the right one?

2006-10-27 12:31:41 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

Almost certainly is no? Exactly what does that mean?

2006-10-27 12:30:51 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Still waiting for the question.

2006-10-27 12:27:46 · answer #6 · answered by parepidemos_00 3 · 2 2

Mr. Dawkins perpetuates the myth that our country was founded in secularism. I wonder how he responds to the following quotes from some of our forefathers:

“ God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel” Benjamin Franklin – Constitutional Convention of 1787

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“ The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”

“[July 4th] ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.”
–John Adams in a letter written to Abigail on the day the Declaration was approved by Congress

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“ Let divines and philosophers, statesmen and patriots, unite their endeavors to renovate the age by impressing the minds of men with the importance of educating their little boys and girls, inculcating in the minds of youth the fear and love of the Deity… and leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system.”
Samuel Adams - October 4, 1790

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“Why is it that, next to the birthday of the Savior of the world, your most joyous and most venerated festival returns on this day [the Fourth of July]?" “Is it not that, in the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior? That it forms a leading event in the progress of the Gospel dispensation? Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation of the Redeemer's mission upon earth? That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity"?
John Quincy Adams - 1837, at the age of 69, when he delivered a Fourth of July speech at Newburyport, Massachusetts.

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" Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure...are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."
Charles Carroll (signer of the Declaration of Independence) - To James McHenry on November 4, 1800

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“It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."
Patrick Henry - May 1765 Speech to the House of Burgesses

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"I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus."
Thomas Jefferson

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God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.”
Thomas Jefferson - excerpts are inscribed on the walls of the Jefferson Memorial in the nation's capital

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“We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We’ve staked the future of all our political institutions upon our capacity…to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.”
James Madison - 1778 to the General Assembly of the State of Virginia

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"Public utility pleads most forcibly for the general distribution of the Holy Scriptures. The doctrine they preach, the obligations they impose, the punishment they threaten, the rewards they promise, the stamp and image of divinity they bear, which produces a conviction of their truths, can alone secure to society, order and peace, and to our courts of justice and constitutions of government, purity, stability and usefulness. In vain, without the Bible, we increase penal laws and draw entrenchments around our institutions. Bibles are strong entrenchments. Where they abound, men cannot pursue wicked courses, and at the same time enjoy quiet conscience."
James McHenry - Signer of the Constitution


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“In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government ought to be instructed...No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.”
Noah Webster - 1828, in the preface to his American Dictionary of the English Language]

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“Education is useless without the Bible”
Noah Webster. Our Christian Heritage p.5

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At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, James Madison proposed the plan to divide the central government into three branches. He discovered this model of government from the Perfect Governor, as he read Isaiah 33:22;
“For the LORD is our judge,
the LORD is our lawgiver,
the LORD is our king;
He will save us.”

2006-10-27 12:41:58 · answer #7 · answered by The Non-Apologetic Apologist 3 · 1 3

get simple this not a school about anything

2006-10-27 12:25:52 · answer #8 · answered by george p 7 · 2 1

Okay............

2006-10-27 12:43:06 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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