Lucifer had several titles before he was cast out of heaven?

Question

One of his titles was "guardian of the throne", my question is why did God need his throne protected, and from what?

Lucifer was also called the minister of music and was made of musical instruments.

Answer 1

I don't think it means he was literally "guarding the throne", but that he had a position of responsibility or honor next to it. In old fashioned courts, those with more honor or royal favor stood closer to the throne. The guardian of the throne would then be one of the most honored. Another one of his names was "son of the morning".

A lot of the Bible is figurative and uses flowery poetic language. Greek influence makes us so literal.

Answer 2

You have to remember that everything religious has a human spin on it. A Supreme Being doesn't need a "guardian of the throne", except in human terms. We are a violent people, and understand life in violent terms. Lucifer has also been referred to as "God's right-hand man", but it doesn't sound as lofty a title as the other. Humans love impressive titles.

Answer 3

Lucifer is ONLY called guardian of the throne in gnostics texts. Not biblical ones. Those texts came along during the Cathar heresy some 400 years AFTER Jesus.

Answer 4

In modern and late Medieval Christian thought, Lucifer is a fallen angel commonly associated with Satan, the embodiment of evil and enemy of God. Lucifer is generally considered, based on the influence of Christian literature and legend, to have been a prominent archangel in heaven (although some contexts say he was a cherub or a seraph), prior to having been motivated by pride to rebel against God. When the rebellion failed, Lucifer was cast out of heaven, along with a third of the heavenly host, and came to reside on the world.

Lucifer is a Latin word meaning "light-bearer" (from lux, "light", and ferre, "to bear, bring"), a Roman astrological term for the "Morning Star", the planet Venus. The word Lucifer was the direct translation of the Greek eosphorus ("dawn-bearer"; cf. Greek phosphorus, "light-bearer") used by Jerome in the Vulgate. In that passage, Isaiah 14:12, it referred to one of the popular honorific titles of a Babylonian king; however, later interpretations of the text, and the influence of embellishments in works such as Dante's The Divine Comedy and Milton's Paradise Lost, led to the common idea in Christian mythology and folklore that Lucifer was a poetic appellation of Satan.

Answer 5

'Lucifer' had no titles and was never cast out of heaven because 'Lucifer' never existed. The term 'Lucifer' is a mistranslation of the Hebrew for 'morning star' which was used as an allusion to a human king in a prophesy. Early christians took this term from the greek as referring to an angel who got on the wrong side of God.

So much for that load of crap.

Answer 6

I found several titles for Lucifer, but not 'guardian of the throne'. At least in the Holy Bible. Can you reference this title?

The angel of the bottomless pit
The idol shepherd
The wilful king
The vile person
The prince that shall come
The little horn
The profane and wicked prince of israel
The branch of the terrible ones
The nail
Son of the morning
The king of babylon
The assyrian
The violent man
The head over many countries
The adversary
The enemy
The mighty man
The man of the earth
The wicked one
The bloody and deceitful man
The beast
The lawless one
The man of sin
The son of perdition
The antichrist

Answer 7

I've never heard that one before, "guardian of the throne." Where did that come from? Just curious. I'm sure he had other titles, but I can't recall any from the scripts right now. I believe another name was "son of the morning"? Or did I just hear that from someone.

Answer 8

John 17:3,5,24 [ Jesus was with God before the world was ]; Rev.22:16 Jesus is called the bright and morning star. Col,1:15-17; Rev.3:14; Jesus first creation by God. Job.38:4-7 Angels saw earth become the focus for habitation, angels are called morning stars and sons of God Job 2:1,2 Satan was with the sons of God Isa.14:12-14; Eze.28:13-15 the cherub anointed over Eden called serpent Gen.3:1-5; and Lucifer meaning day star and world leaders are compared to him [ the angels or sons of God sinned before the flood Gen.6:2,4 and wait for judgement day Jude 6; 1Pet.3:18-20; 2Pet.2:4 to be judged by the saints 1Cor.6:2,3 ];

Angels do not die Luke 20:34-36 and are a large number Rev.5:11 WHO CAN COUNT?

Jesus born in Roman Empire as sixth, at age 30 he faced Satan Matt.4:1-11 and refused his offer. Matt.26:53 Jesus could have had 12 legions [ 72,000 ] angels, but Jesus was crucified, resurrected and ascended to heaven John 3:13-17 where he came from to sit at the right hand of God his Father until Satan and his angels are cast down to footstool earth Matt.22:42-45; Acts 2:27-35; Heb.1:1-13; Rom.16:20; Luke 10:18;
2520 years after Babylon made the Promised Land desolate [ THERE WILL BE NO KING UNTIL KING JESUS ]; REV.12:6-11,12 Michael and his angel cast Satan and his angel out of heaven and down on footstool earth Dan.12:1-13; [ Michael has power over Satan Dan.10:13,21; Satan stronger than Gabriel Dan.9:21; but not Michael ];
Jude 9; Michael contends with Satan in the past, and now all the short time he has before it is time for the 1000 year day, the reign of Christ Jesus.
WITH SATAN DOWN HEAVEN IS CLEANSED John 14:3 A place has been prepared for those who are raised up to be with Jesus at the last day John 6:39,40,44 and Michael is there to the last 1Thes.4:15-17; for second coming of Jesus in Rev.20:1-6 Jesus has his heavenly body first resurrected for the 1000 year reign. Rev.3:12 the new heavenly Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven from God to resurrect Rev.20:12,13 the earthly body [ Heb,9:27 ]; that will be for the new earth Matt.19:28 [ Eze.37:12-14; Isa.65:17; 66:1,22,23 ]; 2Pet.3:13; when all is made perfect as it was before Eden.
Rev.21:1-5 all is made new and verse 8 IS THE SECOND DEATH Rev.20:7-10 is the final cleansing of earth at the end of the 1000 year reign of Christ and Isa.9:6 is done 1Cor.15:22-28,51-53 is done and all is saved into the kingdom of God as perfect and God is all in all. Luke 23:43; Rev.2:7; 2Cor,12:2,4 [ Jesus promised Paradise ];

Answer 9

Wrap your mind around this:

Traditionally angels don't have free will. This is what makes humans unique in that they control their own destiny and choose to accept God or not. Anyway since angels don't have free will, they only do God's will right? So God must have commanded Lucifer in his rebellion.

Satan is still an angel, and any powers he has come directly from God since God is all powerful there is no power able to give satan abilities that god did not allow and thus God not only passively lets satan exist, but in fact actively created evil.

Answer 10

It's just a dumb story. If you read the book of Enoch there seems to be more fire up there than there is in Hell. Then there's those storage rooms for the rain, snow, stars, Sun and the Moon. How daft were they in the good ol' days anyway?