To those who believe or teach the "rapture" theory?

Question

The people who teach this theory point to this verse:

1 Thessalonians 4:17

After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

BUT 1 Thessalonians 4:16 says "the dead in Christ will rise first."

QUESTION:

According to the theory, does this mean that the resurrection of the dead will occur before the living are "raptured"?

FYI: John Nelson Darby (1800-1882) is known as the father of the "rapture theory".

Answer 1

The rapture makes no sense because it teaches there will be 2 final Judgments. That in itself is illogical.

The Final Judgment is when God has deemed humanity worthy of resurrection. We stand before God and account for our lives, and he gives us entrance to heaven or hell. Then all of humanity will be resurrected, those in heaven and those in hell. Those in heaven will be given a body worthy of heavenbound. Those in hell will get a body worthy of the hell bound.

Answer 2

The most common theology regarding the rapture is pretribulationism and teaches that the rapture may occur at any time now. The general concept is that all the dead in Christ will arise all at the same time. This concept of resurrection as a group is common to all rapture theologies. There are two other theologies regarding the rapture, one is called midtribulationist and the other is posttribulationist both of these believe that the rapture is not immediately going to happen any time now, both occur after events in the future.

Can you think about everybody calling out a different name in a large sports stadium??? When Lazarus was raised from the dead Jesus called him to come forth. When Tabitha was raised by Paul he commanded her to arise.How long would it take to call everyone by name? It could be going on right now, but is not yet complete! Remember, the dead in Christ will rise first!!!! The next question to consider is: How long is : AFTER THAT???

Answer 3

According to the verse, not the theory, this is true! Resurrection, then the translation of the living believers in Christ.

However, please note that this Bible reference does not discuss the rapture with regard to a tribulation. The simplest view is that this all takes place on the last day of history, just as Jesus said in John 6. He said it four times there.

Please also note that according to 1 Corinthians 15:51ff. it will all happen in a split second, "in the twinkling of the eye..."

Answer 4

The Christian dead, not all the dead. It will occur about the same time as the rapture. All the world will know that people disappeared and some graves have been opened. The Christian dead are already in Heaven, but at that trumpet sound their "resurrection bodies" will come out of the graves.

Answer 5

To answer your question, Yes.

FYI...

One of the most widely circulated attacks against the pre-trib rapture is the notion that a girl named Margaret MacDonald started this theological view back in 1830. The claim is typically made that MacDonald received a demonic vision, passed it on to John Darby, who in turn popularized it. Disproving this assertion proves rather easy. Pre-trib scholars have discovered a host of rapture writings that predate Margaret MacDonald.

Epharaem the Syrian said, in 373 AD, "For all the saints and Elect of God are gathered, prior to the tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to overwhelm the world because of our sins."

One post-trib author offered a reward to anyone who could find a quote that predated MacDonald. He had to quickly cough up the money when someone identified a scholar who wrote about the pre-trib rapture several years before MacDonald. As of late, dozens of examples have been found, and the literary surface has hardly been scratched.

With the revealing of all these pre-MacDonald writings, you would think that this argument has been debunked. Unfortunately, this is not the case. We seem to be involved in a tug-of-war with the truth. Apparently, due to their lack of research, pre-trib opponents continue to pump out publications that cite MacDonald as the originator of the pre-trib rapture.

Answer 6

the dead are already with christ. After you die, you are not bound by space-time, because you are spirit, and your spirit goes with God.
revelations 6:9-11 states :When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, "How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?" Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed as they had been was completed.
The rapture are for those that are still living on earth that will be snatched away the same time jesus comes back (not seven years before like taught be pre-tribulationists).

Answer 7

I also have a greater suitable thought. If god created intellegent circuits, he could have created lesser intellegent circuits. meaning there are additionally circuits that don't obey "god's will" becuse intellegence is a byproduct of loose concept. So ofcording to intellegent modern-day the subsequent time I start up my automobile and it wont turn over, its becuse my automobile is possesed and the circuits are refusing to flow like god needs them to be. So instead of taking my automobile to a mechanic to have my spark plugs replaced i could take it to a church and characteristic it blessed? Theories are basically theories becuse they artwork. If it dosent artwork, its no longer a real medical concept. additionally you may learn some defeinitions. like the definition of a medical concept as antagonistic to a classic concept. medical theories are the abstraction from a huge variety of diverse assessments and a resultant thought. with the intention to realize the prestige of concept a thought ( it is triple for chemistry and physics) could be on the factor of suitable. it may basically have a small volume f errors. Circuit concept is nice becuse it is one hundred%. additionally take a glance into the behaviour of electricity . Thats each and all the data i might desire yet being as im no longer a physics variety of guy i'm going to depart that to somebody who's.

Answer 8

Here is what I believe...

Yes, they will. The souls of those that have died before the "rapture" are already with God. At the "rapture" the soul gets united with their glorified, perfected body and they are resurrected. This happens to the dead in Christ first. The dead in Christ is referring to the physical body, which will return to dust, not the soul. The soul does not "sleep," it goes to be with God upon physical death. It is the body that "sleeps" because it is dead. At the "rapture" we will receive an uncorrupted body...so body and soul will be united.

That is my take on things anyway.

Answer 9

The book of Revelations suggest at least two resurrections. So the answer to your question would be yes.

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They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
~Revelations 20:4a-6 (NIV)

Answer 10

Nothing gets past you!LOL!
Yes,the dead in Christ shall rise first.Then,all those still alive on earth that have accepted Jesus Christ as their personal savior will meet him in the clouds.That means I won't be afraid of heights anymore.Yippie!