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The universe must have had just one beginning, otherwise, by the 2nd law of thermo, we would not exist. Why? After an eternity, all matter and energy would be scattered throughout the universe. However, we do exist, and the universe is expanding.

Thus, as science has found, the universe had a beginning (Big Bang), and it could have only had 1 beginning, meaning, it cannot cycle, as per inflation theory, which already has been discounted.

Thus, what "caused" the universe to come into being, "suddenly"?

There are 2 general options: a creator (consciousness), or some unknown natural mechanism (mass and energy).

Though neither can be proven, a creator that is eternal consciousness "might" be uncaused. A materialistic mechanism still needs a cause to create a universe of mass and energy, and then that materialistic cause needs another cause, etc.

What do you think and why?

2006-10-26 03:55:00 · 15 answers · asked by Cogito Sum 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Logically, the universe can not have a cause.

Please explain.

It seems the universe came into being.
Whatever comes into being must be caused.
Thus, the universe was caused into being.

That is far more logical and aligned with science than an uncaused universe.

So I am interested on how it could be uncaused.

2006-10-26 04:03:49 · update #1

toogether: I did not specify who or what the creator was. All your options fall under the general option of creator. I did not specify religion.

2006-10-26 04:06:47 · update #2

spamandham: Thanks for your reply. I have never heard that time is relative. Science seems to be able to measure time back to the moment of the big bang, and to acknowledge that the cause is unknown. However, it is a pretty good rationalization for your belief, and that is ok. It was unique!

2006-10-26 04:17:29 · update #3

Born again: God is not a deceiver, God is truth, so He would do that.

2006-10-26 04:32:38 · update #4

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Well, I'm not gonna be joining any "all hail the big bang from nothingness" group. Big bangers call creationists illogical, talk about irony.....

2006-10-26 04:02:31 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

the laws of physics state that there is causality for every action or reaction. Objects do not move until another object or force interacts with it. Similarily, motion does not cease until affected by another object or force. You are assuming the the "Big Bang" was the beginning of everything. Have you considered that other events may have preceded the "Big Bang"? Perhaps like the collapse of a previous universe into a microscopic quantum singularity within a black hole, the mass of which so great as to cause the "Big Bang" to occur? We simply do not have the knowledge to understand the dynamics involved. But prescribing consciousness to the event we dont understand, or some other mystical or magical influence, is a shortsighted way of approaching the problem. This has been done throughout mankind's history...we always seem to create a God to control things we do not understand. Gods of Fire, or the Sun, or even possibly today's Gods...

2016-05-21 22:11:20 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You state, "There are 2 general options: a creator (consciousness), or some unknown natural mechanism (mass and energy)."

Where do you get this? Aren't there a myriad of options? An un-named mysterious cloud of gas caused it. A Giant Turtle with the head of a snake caused it. A Being called the Ultimate Physiamical Force caused it. The Flying Spagetti Monster caused it... and on and on and on...

Where do you get that there are only two options?

2006-10-26 04:00:27 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Logically, the universe can not have a cause.

The reason for this is that the very concept of causailty is simply a result of the regularity of the universe itself. Without the universe in place, there is no reason for causality to exist either.

Without the universe, time does not exist, so no time passed prior to the existence of the universe, and there has never been a time when the universe didn't exist.

Mathematically, if you could travel backward toward the big bang singularity, you would never actually reach it. This is the perspective of the universe itself, and from this perspective, the universe is eternal.

2006-10-26 03:58:38 · answer #4 · answered by lenny 7 · 1 1

New technology, bigger telescopes and super-conductive sensors will allow cosmologist to see back to within a few nano seconds of the origin of the universe.
This current universe may be just one of many. Perhaps it will one day collapes, the jury is still out on that.
Just because we don't have all the answers does not support the believe in a God. It only means that you have given up searching for the real reason.

2006-10-26 03:58:42 · answer #5 · answered by trouthunter 4 · 2 0

Full of assumptions, obviously not everything must have a cause, that leads to an infinite regress.

An atheist doesn't need an explanation for that its just obvious, there is no answer to the question why is there something rather than nothing. A theist posits the existence of God soemwhere in there with no evidence whatever, the regress still applies.

2006-10-26 04:10:14 · answer #6 · answered by fourmorebeers 6 · 0 1

i think, no, i know, God created the heavens and the earth.. why? coz i know Him. and His word says so.

well, the "big bang" explosion of all bits and pieces making the whole world and everything in it is ridiculous, coz if you just look into a microscope at ONE CELL, you can see the great craftsmaship of just the smallest plant or creature, let alone humans! Science proves there had to be a creator. not an explosion.

heres the big bang theory that is more correct:
God said "let there be light" and BANG... it happened!!

hehehe

2006-10-26 04:00:51 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Well, you see, the universe willed itself in to a primordial ball of ultra dense "star stuff" that decided one day to explode in a "big bang" and spread out billions of light-years in defiance of the laws of gravitation and organize into galaxies, stars, and planets. (Hope that was dripping with sarcasm)

This will be the eternal problem for science. They have to have faith that the universe willed itself into existence yet deny that a being of ultimate power and intelligence could will itself into existence and create the universe. No matter how far back they reach, the question remains "where did it come from?".

2006-10-26 04:09:20 · answer #8 · answered by Crusader1189 5 · 1 1

God spoke and everything was created.

It doesn't say where He created it, so He could have spread it all out, and made it all appear to be expanding. Ever think of that?

2006-10-26 04:27:25 · answer #9 · answered by Born Again Christian 5 · 0 0

You mean the big bang never explained where the comsic goose egg came from? I though science was the ansewer to everything!

I guess there is room for God after all!

http://www.answersingenesis.org/

n3

2006-10-26 04:00:28 · answer #10 · answered by N3WJL 5 · 3 1

In as much as I was not around to see how everything came into being (and neither were you),I say, "I don't know ..... YET!" To assume that some god, my less than intellectual ancestors made up, instantaneously farted the universe into being, is absurd

2006-10-26 03:59:08 · answer #11 · answered by iknowtruthismine 7 · 1 1

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