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for the not so advanced: Why do you need to believe in fairy tails and flat out deny reality rather then simply accepting objective reality? Is the concept of death so frightning you need a mythological construct (Religion) or where you raised with it and are too scared to learn the facts of what you have been tought by out side resources?

2006-10-24 18:24:42 · 11 answers · asked by Ponylover54 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Care to elabourate there other then tossing out ad Hom, please deal with the questions rather then trying to attack me, or is it you have no functional answer?

2006-10-24 18:28:58 · update #1

Yes I do admit this question was poorly thought out, getting rather tired and at first it sounded well planned when this one dies I'll make a much better thought out post.

So please bear with me.

2006-10-24 18:40:22 · update #2

"God is real. You can prove it to yourself by praying to Him humbly and sincerely, if you have the courage. He loves you much, much more than I do."

Ah so to seek proof I first must make a presupposition that he exists, do you not see the failure of logic here? If it existed I would not have to first assume it did. I do not first need to believe in a bus for that buss to hit me, if I do not believe in the bus it will hit me no matter, yet to see if your mythology is true I must first assume it is? That is quite illogical, I may as well assume there is an invisible bridge across a Cliff, would this be wise? Of course not, it would be a dangerously foolish presupposition to make!

2006-10-24 19:01:34 · update #3

"Some of us think different and we are here for a reason and have a purpose. "

Perpos is what ever the person chooses to make, so there is no point to what you have said in that matter, I never claimed that there was no point. I have chosen the peros of giving pleasure and to help any I can simply becuase I am able to, I assigned that perpos.

and why do you think one should be banned for using the correct word?

2006-10-24 19:44:36 · update #4

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"Reality - what a concept!"

While I tend toward the agnostic or at least toward propitiating the Chaos Gods, there is something to the concept of whether all we experience is all that's there. Godel's Incompleteness Theorem indicated that there are true statements that can't be proven within the system in which the statements are made. (That last statement probably caused shudders among the mathematicians. Sorry, guys) And while Godel was talking about mathematical systems, there is nothing that says that his concept cannot be applied to the shared experience we call "reality".

Remember that religion and science are both attempts by the human animal to explain why things happen in "reality". Science has recently had the upper hand due to the rise of the mechanistic perception of the universe. It also has a slight advantage in that hypotheses can be tested by experiment and/or observation. Religious concepts aren't as easily tested. Most observations tend to be highly subjective and can be confounded.

The current dichotomy between science and religion is the tendency of humans for binary thinking taken to extremes. Centuries ago, the concept of "natural philosophy" could include both physical sciences and religion. I find it heartening that Harvard, among others, is going to require a religion course as part of its core curriculum. The course is not prosyletizing; it's more of a means of expanding thought processes - which is what you were trying to get to with this question.

2006-10-24 18:35:39 · answer #1 · answered by eriurana 3 · 0 2

1. There is no such word as "presupitionistic." To use it shoots your attempt at psuedo-intellectualism in the foot. Big time.
2. Fairies don't have tails, at least not as they are usually depicted.
3. To theists, YOU are the one who flat out denies reality rather than (note - it is spelt with an "a" not an "e" - "then" is the next object or occurance within a timeline) simply accepting objective reality. To quote Voltaire: "If God did not exist then we would have to invent Him."
4. Death is not frightening to theists, only dying.
5. Are you too scared to learn the facts of what YOU have been taught (spelt T-A-U-G-H-T) by outside resources?

Or to put it as you might understand it (judging by your question) and for those you seem to judge as more advanced;

The anti-existationalism of the vocabularistic positioning of your interrogative statement lamentably disturbs the facade of your argument.
we dont beleeve in farey tayls wi beleive in god or gods you rejecting flatly to be clever? Raised with it and not learn outside facts lernt choose youself?

2006-10-24 19:42:20 · answer #2 · answered by d_f_cornish 2 · 0 0

presupitionistic

Using words like that will get you banned from Yahoo!

you have been tought by out side resources

Using words like tought will get you banned from grade school!

What is reality? That down deep inside we are all Hydrogen Atoms?

What is reality. We were nothing before we were born. Most of us are nothing while we are here (what great theories of Relativity have you postulated lately). When we die we become nothing.

If you want to think of yourself as being nothing so be it.

Some of us think different and we are here for a reason and have a purpose.

2006-10-24 19:41:07 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

For starters, "presupitionistic" isn't even a real word.

Secondly it's "tales" not fairy "tails".

And, the spelling of "taught" is not "tought".

I guess we can estimate the level of your literacy from this.

Please learn your English first before you presume to be capable of a subject as complex as "Philosophy".

PS,

there's no such word as "presupposition".

I guess you don't know the difference between a "suppository" and "persumption".

Learn to construct sentences properly. the "buss" diatribe is not a sentence.

"Cliff" is the name of a man, whereas "cliff" is what you fall off.

"perpos" is not a word either.

If you're trying to say "purpose", spell it correctly.

2006-10-24 21:14:15 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

You really need to take--and pass--3rd-grade English before you ask these things. Also, try using spell-check, and stick with words that are actually words. Otherwise those of us who are "not so advanced" will have a hard time understanding you. "Fairy tails"? Puh-LEEZE!

God is real. You can prove it to yourself by praying to Him humbly and sincerely, if you have the courage. He loves you much, much more than I do.

2006-10-24 18:38:16 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You have assumed that all visitors to this category are religious nutters (in plain-speak). Not so, O One with Verbal Diahorrea. I am an atheist through and through and visit this category to throw the cat amongst the pigeons, the spanner in the works - but mainly to speak sense amongst a whole pile of stupidity.. A voice of reason amid the babel of babies, the continuance of lies and false promises. Rather enjoy it, actually.
Check - do run through your text for typos and errors before posting? Good grammar, spelling and punctuation do matter as much as vocabulary does.
Peace Be Unto You.

2006-10-24 18:33:18 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

We don't need to believe in anything. We worship GOD because He told us too.How confused you are to think we are the one's not living in reallity.And someone who is "so advanced" woulod not be asking that question.May GOD bring peace to you.

2006-10-24 18:30:37 · answer #7 · answered by Piper 5 · 1 1

You are pedantic...and your use of pseudo-Intellectualism is comical.

Don't try so hard...you would appear more authentic.

You almost trip yourself up with your wannabe-intellectual verbal acrobatics.

2006-10-24 18:26:56 · answer #8 · answered by Adyghe Ha'Yapheh-Phiyah 6 · 1 0

For all your brilliance, you spelled taught incorrectly. Sad.

2006-10-24 18:27:18 · answer #9 · answered by AuroraDawn 7 · 1 0

English isn't your first language is it?

2006-10-24 18:28:47 · answer #10 · answered by Joanne B 3 · 1 0

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