free will and religion?what?

Question

Please understand I am not attacking anyone here, just as any reasonable person would do, questioning things to gain insight .
1.Any choice , and now I will refer to a religious choice , is based on social and cultural conditioning, for instance those born in the middle east most likely are going to be of Islamic faith, those in Jerusalem most likely will be Jews, and so forth. For those who believe that just their faith would take them to heaven or hell, so how can it be a free will to choose Christ if GOD has chosen your place of birth where you most likely ,once again because of cultural background you are in, you will not have the opportunity to know him, then you are dammed since you were born, what kind of choice and free will is there?
2. for those that say or you accept Jesus as the savior or you will perish in hell, but you have the choice, what kind of choice is it really if someone tells you give me your money or I will shoot you?

will you give your money or get shot? if you give your money you are wise and spare your life ,if not just pretty dumb way of dying , that to me is coercion not free will.
Should you perish or get a reward based on your actions and not what faith you happen to be ?

Answer 1

logic my friend... it will do you well to study logic...

Answer 2

It seems that you are asking a loaded question. It is in the form of a question, but it in effect a statement of your apparent conclusion about the subject.

But, be comforted by the fact that your thoughts are in the mainstream of our society. Whereas, 90% of Americans believe in God, only 30% of "intellectuals" believe there is room for God in their philosophy and confidence in evolution.

The Creationists have recently added a new twist to their controversy with the Evolutionists. Their new approach comes in the form of a simple statement,

"If we have "free will" then we must have been created by someone who gave us free will."

By "someone", they are referring to God, or a supreme being, or an extra-terrestrial.

My first reaction: "Free will doesn't apparently prove anything about our origin." On second thought, I began to consider "free will" as a possible signpost. Signposts, whether they be street signs or other recognizable reference points, should not be ignored.
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Do we have "free will"? Or, are we simply creatures reacting to "cause and effect"?

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Surprisingly, adamant Evolutionists soon agreed with the rules of the argument. They agreed that if humans have "free will" it would prove creationism. However, the Evolutionists, insist that humans have never had "free will". They feel confident that all human endeavors, activities, and developments have been strictly the result of "cause and effect"; and not "free will".

Answer 3

this is a very faulty premise to start with...

for starters Israel is in the middle east... and the countries that ARE arab are theocratically so... so of course those people are more prone to being muslim.

the massive amount of converts between religions proves its not distinctively or definitively based on the parents's religion.

this is just a terrible start to work from.

for your second point, I agree. lol,
its a bizzare way to go about things. only surpassed by the oddity of someone "sacrificing" themself... when they wouldn't even, (according to the belief of the religion) stay dead... I mean how is that much of a sacrifice?

but I'm jewish as well, so we don't think non-believers will go to "hell" anyway.

>>"Furthermore, what is the point of "free will" (such as it is) if God already knows the outcome."<< ... knowlege doesn't mean its determined... as such. its a complicated thing to fathom, but basically the nature of God is such that knowlege of it does not determine it.

Answer 4

This is a central dilemma in the convoluted Christian faith.

Furthermore, what is the point of "free will" (such as it is) if God already knows the outcome.

If He doesn't know the outcome, He can't be God in the Christian sense.

Try as they might, Christians cannot get around this.

Answer 5

If i visit get a guess to make a factor loose to could magogi ki mujhay bhaut sara foodstuff miley jo ki could un garib people's could baat saku jinay ki foodstuff nahi mil tha or bina foodstuff kay hi mar ja thay hai.

Answer 6

You gotta Free-Will. You can chose to get Shot.
Not very good Idea, but you Can chose it.
GOD didn't Chose your Place of Birth----HE is only Obligated to send a Human Being when Sperm meets Egg.

Answer 7

As it is written, "From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. "

The Lord has also said, "You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all of your heart"

Answer 8

well in my religion we are told to never to deny Christ, but we are given our free agency to choose what we think we should do. no one should be forcing you to do anything. there should be high standards but you have to choose for yourself if you want to follow them.

Answer 9

Yeah, Kj7gs, we DID answer this before!

Answer 10

yes, theoretically i agree with you, but there is no hell for non-believers in my religion so its moot.