In the Israeli conflict, which religious claim to the land has the most credibilty, jewish or islamic?

Question

Most people dont understand that the Israeli conflict is 100% religious in nature. Islamic martyrs blow themselves up in the service of Allah. The terror groups are called "Islamic Jihad" and "Al-Aqsa Martys Brigade" and "Hamas". All are Islamic religious names with Islamic religious creeds and demands.

The politically correct and inept media tries to keep much of this out of the coverage, but the entire conflict is religious in nature.

Islamic Claim: Muhammad rose of heaven on a flying animal at the dome of the rock. Muhammad was the last of the Muslim prophets, and all jewish prophets were Muslim, the jews just dont know it. This is not negotiable, all is ours.

Jewish Claim: Jewwwwww-rulselm was started by jews and is a holy jewish land.

All religions are false, so no religious claim is worth a damn, but lets work with this anyway. Suppose you accept the proferring of religious claims to land. Does the insane Islamic retro-active "your now a Muslim" claim work for you?

"so your jewish". I love that, Islamic jewhate is priceless. I state outright that "all religions are false" and the Muslim slaps down the "jew" tag. Your hatred for jews only makes me love them more. Islamic terror, hatred and war makes me a super jewhinduchristian lover.

Answer 1

Jewish culture, religion and the Hebrew language are native to Israel.

Arabic culture, religion and the Arabic lanaguage are native to Arabia.

Answer 2

Careful, best to keep your arguments a bit less emotional. They are good.

Certainly the lands of Canon where won through wars by the Jews. There were NO Muslims at that time, not til 680 after the Christians came along. However, if I am mistaken, Mohammad claimed the land for Allah, because it was Abra land, belonging to them, and that Mohammad was the first and last prophet of the Muslims, none other, he did claim that he was the direct decedent of Abraham, and thus, the last prophet of the Jews with the final Word of Allah, to which they denied him,,,,,thus the hate.

The Jews are a large target for all Abra's, they have been for a long long time.

Answer 3

Blindly you call the Islamic Jihad and Al Aqsa Martyr Brigade terrorists. They fight for their land. One's terrorists is anothers freedom fighter.

Terrorism is not also done by Palestinian Suicide Bombers. They are many Israeli attacks on Palestinian Muslims AND Christians from Zionists.

I have another thing to ask you. How can I argue with you about good and bad when you don't believe in God and Religion. If you did as well the West should be doing, there would of been NO Homos preaching, NO nude beaches, NO sexual activity in public areas. A true Christian would follow verbatim everytword from their book and if this would of happen, everyone wold be equal without any Women, Child Labor or High Wage Activists. Everyone would be happy with their lives going and following whatever book they read and whatever religious center they pray in. Sadly, you do not because you are an athiest. Unlike Judaism and Christianity, Islam is simple. Just worship the one true God, Allah and then go on the secondary and tertiary problems. If you do what I say, You will get what I mean...

If they follow what is truly in the Old and New Testament we would be having any conflicts in Israel/Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan because they all preach one thing peace. You might be thinking I am sort of a Zealot and Anti-Semitic but I am not. Islam does not tell me to hate anyone because Islam is peace.

Know, you might be thinking "Hey, how could we live in peace if they are Muslims around". Well, here is a verse which would answer the problem today with people and thinking Islam is violent:

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but DO NOT TRANSGRESS LIMITS.

Al-Baqarah verse 190

This is what God Almight said, Muslims in Palestine and elsewhere who are truly Muslim which like everyone in those Palestinian groups are. Well, if you don't believe me, go see other places in the world where Muslims memorize the whole book and tell me.

Muslims in Israel are fighting the land not ONLY because their land has been stolen but because of the rights stripped by cruel Zionists. I am not saying it is the Jews as they are some who are great and loving people. Alot of my friends are Jewish and just like I respect their religion, so do they. Anyway, If the Muslims and the Christians get their rights and respect, there wouldn't be any problem we as humans face. Many Muslim countries everywhere who follow the Shariah, Sunnah/Hadiths but primarily, the Quran are not evil and barbaric but actually want their communities to end all sins and bad habits in order to acheive closeness with Allah. The punishments in Shariah should be everywhere even in Non-Islamic Countries.

How can Israel be a great example of democracy in the ME if they are the ones bombing and bulldozing Palestinian homes unjustly, blaming Arabs for a bad action while the Zionists start and/or done something 100x worse then the Arabs/Muslims done? Is this what democracy should be like?

Yes, the Jews have their rights to rule this land but its being ruled not by actual Jews who follow what is written in their book as they are very kind and great men. If it was, then how come those Muslims throughout the Middle East who lived with happily with Jews and gave them the respect and rights they deserved and suddenly get bombed? How come Muslims are treated like dust in Israel? How come you see Muslims and Jews hating each other?

Also, why should Palestinians be getting all the burden if they weren't those very people who bombed and killing thousands if not millions of Europeans and Jews from Planes sent by Germans, Russians, Americans, British, etc. What did they do?in WWII while those poor innocent people were sitting home taking care of their family and watching as their neighborhood becomes a huge crater due to the evil leaders during those times.

Answer 4

I agree with you religion plays an important part in the conflict, but it is not only religious in nature. The Palestine-Israel conflict is very much a combat for resources (water in particular) between two people.
From a secular point of view, the implantation of Israel and it's international acceptation in 1948 on land already occupied by Palestinians is unprecedented and could not have been justified without the Old Testament and Jewish claims to the Holy land.
Now that the Jews are there, however, a peaceful solution can only come from a fully-independent Palestinian state that will accept Israel. Much is made of the fact some Palestinians have called for Israel to be 'pushed back to the sea', little is made of the fact many Israeli feel the same way about Palestinians.
The blame game is of little utility. It is a little publicized fact that there are also Jewish terrorists targeting Palestinian civilians. As long as world powers keep taking sides (especially the U.S.), the solution will keep evading the world community.

Answer 5

It is not religious and both Muslims and Jews will basically disagree with you!

First, a majority of people in Israel are decidendents of Hebrew tribes, but not everyone is overtly Jewish.

There have been Jews in Jerusalem continuously and contiguously for over 2,500 years or since the recorded history of Jerusalem began and both Jews and Muslims will ackonowledge that.

The Objection is to Zionism or a Zionist state.

The foundations of the nation of Israel.

The Arabic anger comes out of a few Jews (or maybe even non-Jews working for Jews) buying "swamp land" out in the North dust bowl from some good Arabs who laughed all the way to the bank.

Once the Arabs realized that these land deals were part of a plan to carve out a nation and create the state of Zion, they started attacking Jews and Arabs who were selling the land. They started using Terrorism and some Zionists people decided they could do the same thing and they also started Terrorist factions.

It's got nothing much to do with religion in a real sense.

Answer 6

Jerusalem was the City of the Jebusites.
David bought the threshing floor from Ornan, as recorded in the Bible. The threshing floor is Mt. Moriah, upon which Jerusalem sits. In all likelihood, it is the same place where Abraham went to offer Isaac, on the mountain in the land of Moriah.
The Bible itself serves as the title deed to the Temple Mount.

Islam has changed the names so that Ishmael was the one taken to sacrifice, not Isaac.

Answer 7

You don't know much, do you? God made His covenant with Abraham's legitimate son, Isaac, and all of his descendants. This is the reason that Abraham's illegitimate son, Ishmael, and all of his descendants despise, unto death, the Jewish race. God claimed Israel for His own and gave it to the Jewish people, His chosen people.

Answer 8

My dear, your question, must and should and can only be answered by God Himself. We do not and can not see the complete picture. Just reading Gods' written word and letting His will be done in our lives and the lives of the ones we love, and doing what God wants us to do for others. Will take our whole journey here, and we should leave those other things to God. He alone has the answers, you are seeking. As for the governments we shall pray for Gods' will to be done everywhere.

Answer 9

God told Abraham to walk the land .Wherever his foot trod ,that would be his land.This promise went to his son Isaac (not Ishmael) then to Jacob,then to his 12 sons.From Sidon to the river of Egypt ,that is going to be their land,eventually.

Answer 10

What you fail to understand though, is that it's the same God, the same Law, the same Prophets, the same message, the same everything.

The only real difference is that Islam is the newest of all the heavenly religions, and it has come down to re-enforce what was already there, Judaism and Christianity.

See! You can't see it. It's in front of your eyes, you're looking straight at it, but yet you can't see it...it's like someone put a veil in front of your eyes.

Islam is for ALL MANKIND, not just for the Muslims...a paradigm shift in everyone's thinking...