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I am searching for direct verse quotations.. not some verses twisted around

2006-10-24 08:53:40 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Am not a JW but, what the scripture does say is this; "The Holy Spirit will teach you all things, even the deeper things of God."

2006-10-24 09:00:59 · answer #1 · answered by mrcricket1932 6 · 3 1

If this question is directed to Jehovah's Witnesses, why are those who know nothing about us answering this question?

Jesus referred to the holy spirit as "the helper", and he said that this helper would "teach", "bear witness", "speak", and "hear". Does that mean the holy spirit is a person? No. There are a number of verses in the Bible where non-personal things are personified. At Luke 7:35, wisdom is said to have "children". At Rom. 5:14, 21, sin and death are spoken of as being kings. While some texts say that the spirit "spoke", other scriptures make clear that this was done through angels or humans. (Acts 4:24, 25; 28:25; Matt 10:19, 20) At 1 John 5:6-8, not only the spirit but also "the water and the blood are said to "bear witness." So, none of the expressions found in these texts in themselves prove that the holy spirit is a person.

The correct identification of the holy spirit must fit ALL THE SCRIPTURES that refer to that spirit. With that viewpoint, it is logical to conclude that the holy spririt is the active force of God. It is not a person but is a powerful force that God causes to emanate from himself to accomplish his holy will.

If the holy spirit is a person, why does it not have a name? The Bible says that the Most High's name is Jehovah. His son's name is Jesus. But nowhere in the Bible is a PERSONAL name applied to the holy spirit.

And here is a side point. At Acts 7:55, Stephen was given a vision of heaven in which he saw "Jesus standing at God's right hand." But he made no mention of seeing the holy spirit. I would imagine if he did, trinitarians would use that as one of their "proofs."

2006-10-24 16:46:10 · answer #2 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 4 0

the holy spirit is referred to as being used by god and Jesus as if its a tool or something used, not as a person.
(; 2 Pet. 1:21,Matt. 12:28; 2 Sam. 23:2; 2 Pet. 1:21, Matt. 3:16, 17, Rom. 8:14, 16, Luke 4:18; Acts 2:16-18, 1 Cor. 2:9, 10, Rom. 14:17)

that's only some of the scriptures.
the bible says all over the place how the holy spirit is used by Jesus and god to do miracles and actions. and to do god's will.

2006-10-24 16:05:39 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

The Hebrew word for the english word "spirit" is ruach (Gen 1:2) According to E.W. Bullinger remarks in Appendix 9 of the Companion Bible:The meaning of the word is to be deduced only from its usage. The one root idea running through all of the passages is invisible force.


In Galatians 3:2, where we find the first use of “spirit” in the book of Galatians. Paul asked Christians: “Did you receive the spirit due to works of law or due to a hearing by faith?” Then, at Galatians 3:5, he linked that “spirit” with the performing of powerful works. So the “spirit” he referred to was holy spirit, God’s invisible active force.
Strong's dictionary defines ruach as

"wind; by resemblance breath, that is, a sensible (or even violent) exhalation; figuratively life, anger, unsubstantiality; by extension a region of the sky; by resemblance spirit, but only of a rational being (including its expression and functions): - air, anger, blast, breath, X cool, courage, mind, X quarter, X side, spirit ([-ual]), tempest, X vain, ([whirl-]) wind (-y)."

So the NWT is correct when it translated ruach as "active force" or spirit. See Gen 1:2

Also, when the Bible refers to the spirit, it has "of God". spirit of God, God's spirit, etc.. It is not a separate person but the Father himself. See 2 Cor 3:17 (Jehovah is the Spirit).

The spirit of God is not a separate person of God but a part of God. It is called the "finger of God" in the Bible. See Luke 11:20 & Mat 12:28.

Thanks.

2006-10-24 17:56:56 · answer #4 · answered by trustdell1 3 · 3 0

Let’s start at the beginning, the word we translate as spirit, It literally means breath or wind.

At Gen 1:2 which most bibles say “ the (S)spirit* of God” was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters. The NRSV says in the footnote “the wind of God” * “And . . . active force (spirit).” Heb., weru´ach. Besides being translated “spirit,” ru´ach is also translated “wind” and by other words that denote an invisible active force.”

This agrees with Psalm 33:6 that says: “By the word of Jehovah the heavens themselves were made, and by the spirit (breath, KJV) of his mouth all their army.”

So the first reference of “Holy Spirit” in the bible denotes wind and breath. So when we say the spirit of God, we are literally saying the breath of God, or the wind of God. Neither of these expressions means a person of God or a personage of God. Both expressions do denote ownership.

Ex. 15:8 “And by a breath* from your nostrils waters were heaped up; They stood still like a dam of floods; The surging waters were congealed in the heart of the sea.” *“And by a breath.” Heb., u•veru´ach; Gr., pneu´ma•tos.

Again we see that God’s spirit is ‘a breath’ that accomplishes not it’s own will, but God’s will.

2006-10-24 16:10:01 · answer #5 · answered by TeeM 7 · 2 1

well there is many scriptures about the holy spirit. Acts 2:4 hebrews 6:4. notice no show that the holy spirit as a person.

2006-10-24 16:00:30 · answer #6 · answered by Dannyboy 2 · 0 2

If it wasn't an active force, how could it reside in the Most Holy of the Temple? Remember, when Christ died, the great curtain tore open to show that it no longer resided in Israel.

2006-10-24 16:24:45 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

let the bible speek, not a book from some ones idea,the Holy Spirit is a person of the God head ,

2006-10-24 16:01:42 · answer #8 · answered by gpamix 1 · 0 1

The Scriptures clearly teach that the Holy Spirit is not a person; the Holy Spirit is a thing, God's active force.

Bible students recognize that the Scriptures often personify impersonal things or qualities.
(Luke 7:35) wisdom is proved righteous by all its children
(Romans 5:14) death ruled as king
(Romans 5:21) sin ruled as king

Referring to the "mind" or governing principles of an inanimate thing does not make it a person; neither does referring to a thing's "heart" or core make it a person:
(Matthew 12:40) the heart of the earth
(Exodus 15:8) the heart of the sea
(2 Samuel 18:14) the heart of the big tree
(Deuteronomy 4:11, footnote) the heart of the heavens

The Scriptures clarify that persons spoke ON BEHALF OF the Holy Spirit:
(Acts 4:25) holy spirit said by the mouth of our forefather David...
(Acts 28:25) The holy spirit aptly spoke through Isaiah the prophet
(Matthew 10:20) it is the spirit of your Father that speaks by you

Testifying or bearing witness is also performed by other nonpersons:
(1 John 5:7,8) there are three witness bearers, the spirit and the water and the blood

Arguments pretending that a person can "fill" another person are based on pagan witchcraft and Babylonish mysticism. The Scriptures consistently show that only nonpersonal qualities can "fill" a person. Jehovah's Witnesses are unlikely to trade their Scriptural true worship for unscriptural Trinitarian ideas.

(2 Thessalonians 2:1-3) We request of you not to be quickly shaken from your reason... the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed

(2 Peter 2:1) there will also be false teachers among you. These very ones will quietly bring in destructive sects

(2 Timothy 4:3-5) For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do the work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry.

(Matthew 28:19,20) Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded

The fact remains that the Scriptures teach that Jesus is a created being who is inferior to the Almighty Jehovah.

In addition, the Scriptures clearly teach that the Holy Spirit is NOT a person, but an impersonal thing or quality. Here are two obvious lines of reasoning...

1. People are NOT filled with other people; they are filled with impersonal QUALITIES:
(Luke 1:41) Elizabeth was filled with holy spirit
(Luke 2:40) filled with wisdom
(Luke 4:28) became filled with anger
(Luke 5:26) they became filled with fear
(Luke 6:11) they became filled with madness
(Acts 3:10) they became filled with astonishment
(Acts 5:17) Sadducees, rose and became filled with jealousy
(Acts 19:29) the city became filled with confusion

2. Logical connections
Here the impersonal thing Holy Spirit is connected with the impersonal thing "power":
(Acts 10:38) God anointed him with holy spirit and power

Here the impersonal thing Holy Spirit is connected with the impersonal thing "joy":
(Acts 13:52) the disciples continued to be filled with joy and holy spirit

The Scriptures apply anthroporphic qualities to many impersonal things. Only Satanic agents who hope to promote Babylonish ideas of polytheistic triad godheads would try to apostacize clear Scriptural teachings into confusion and god-dishonoring filth from the "man of lawlessness".

(Deuteronomy 6:4) Jehovah our God is one Jehovah

(1 Corinthians 8:4-6) There is no God but one. For even though there are those who are called "gods," whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many "gods" and many "lords," there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him

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2006-10-24 18:21:34 · answer #9 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 4 1

JW's use their own version of the Bible. The Holy Spirit is active. Jesus sent him to be our Comforter. It is he that brings the lost soul to Christ for salvation.

2006-10-24 15:57:22 · answer #10 · answered by Preacher 6 · 1 2

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