I believe the people who commit suicide are mentally ill before hand (some people would say otherwise, but really, if you could go through with killing yourself, there has to be something missing - its not easy to kill yourself).
I don't think God would punish people who were mentally ill. And yes, not everyone who is mentally ill commits suicide, but the ones that do have serious issues, and its usually a very large urge and normal reason doesn't make sense to them or doesn't matter.
2006-10-23 14:13:27
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answered by bumbleleigh 4
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It sounds like you are really very interested in knowing how they are. Please dont take this the wrong way, but you may want to consider the possibility that it isnt just heaven or hell. You may want to research a book called the "tibetan book of the dead" and perhaps the buddhist beleifs. Some times a person dies suddenly and doesnt know they have died, they may need to be informed to walk to the light. Sometimes a person dies and knows and in that instant they relive all there joys and fears and transgresions upon others, now Im not sure but I think how they respond to those things helps "place" them karmically into there next journey. Theres so much more to learn about death, and there are people who communicate with the dead. Go to your local bookstore and read something by Sylvie Brown. Good luck, I hope I didnt offend you or your beleifs.
2006-10-23 21:19:59
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answered by blastby2000 3
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My brother committed suicide 9 days ago. I have no doubt that he's in a better spot now than he was during the couple of years of his life. I believe in a God of forgiveness, not a God of judgement, despite the various religious beliefs. Yes, Life IS a gift, but for some with mental illnesses, addictions, and ignorance, life can easily become a plague of fear. And fear no doubt, can make good people do bad things.
I'm sorry for your losses. If you can forgive your loved one's, i believe for God, it'd be a cinch too. Take care.
2006-10-23 21:27:06
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answered by suedoubleyou 2
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I lost one not quite three years ago... : (
Personally, if there is any such thing as an afterlife of sorts, then I believe he is fine. He was the last person who should have ever had to be feeling the way he apparently was. I do not believe in hells or punishment for people who should be loved and cared about with the loss of them, not punished.
If there is any such thing of an 'afterlife' in a way, I know mine is just fine...and have possibly had a few "strange" experiences that I think let me know that he is.
P.S. Both of us are (if he's still an 'are'...) non believers even...
2006-10-23 21:24:43
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answered by Indigo 7
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Passages in the Bible which discuss suicide
The Bible contains a number of references to men seeking suicide, either
by taking direct action or
by begging God to kill them on the spot.
In these passages, the authors of the Bible do not appear to consider suicide to be a great moral sin. The act of committing suicide or of asking that God kill them are simply reported in a factual manner. The authors do not interpret these acts as sinful. They seem to be regarded simply as straightforward personal decisions. However, the Christian church has traditionally deviated from the biblical message and has considered suicide to be a great moral sin. Some denominations have even refused to bury people who have committed suicide.
The New King James translation is quoted here:
Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament):
There are many stories of individuals who either pleaded with God to end their life, or who killed themselves, or who sought the assistance of another to kill them:
Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5 contain two similar version of the Ten Commandments. Both Exodus 20:13 and Deuteronomy 5:17 appear in the King James Version of the Bible as "Thou shalt not kill." This obviously cannot be interpreted literally, because people continually kill plants and animals for food. It has generally been interpreted as meaning that one should not murder a human being, except in cases of self defense or warfare. Christians are divided over whether these verses include suicide. Religious conservatives tend to say that it does; many liberals believe that there are circumstances where suicide is morally justifiable. 10 years experience as a volunteer at a suicide prevention line has led me to believe that suicide is rarely justifiable; it is often a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Numbers 11:12-15 Moses was in despair because of the complaints of the Israelites whom he was leading. The burden of leadership was too heavy for him to bear. He asked God "If You treat me like this, please kill me here and now..."
2006-10-23 21:18:18
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answered by nana_viki 3
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My brother and my cousin committed suicide, we do not know what their last thoughts were. And that means we don't know if they cried out to God or not.
But, I do not think, God sends people to hell for being mentally ill, no more than he would send someone to hell for having cancer.
And someone who takes their own life is having some kind of problem with mental illiness, depression, confusion...
If they were saved then you know that they knew God at one time and that is encouraging.
2006-10-23 21:14:46
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answered by dancinintherain 6
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I believe that suicide is considered murder, hopefully God understood their problems and they are now in heaven, which I'm sure they are, but yeah suicide is considered murder.
But don't worry, sometimes I even wonder if there is a hell, hell may even be on earth!
hope this helped!
and don't worry, I am sure they are in heaven.
God understands, all you have to do is say "God forgive me" and it shall be, I'm sure they did so before they committed suicide.
sorry for your loss.
If you are worried for their souls, pray fro them and ask God to forgive them, believe me, prayer changes things!!!
2006-10-23 21:16:49
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answered by sexyblackmomba 3
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THE tragic news of a suicide does not close a chapter in the lives of relatives and friends; it opens one, a chapter of mixed feelings of pity and anger, sorrow and guilt. And it raises the question: May we entertain any hope for our friend who took his or her life?
Although self-inflicted death is never justified, never righteous, the apostle Paul did hold out a beautiful hope for even some unrighteous ones. As he told a Roman court of law: “I have hope toward God, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” Acts 24:15.
Many theologians have long dismissed any suggestion that the resurrection of the unrighteous might offer hope for those who commit suicide. Why?
Centuries ago, churchmen introduced a non-Biblical concept: immortal souls that leave the body at death and go straight to heaven, purgatory, Limbo, or hell. That concept clashed with the Bible’s clear teaching of a future resurrection. As Baptist minister Charles Andrews asked: “If the soul is already blissfully in heaven (or is already justifiably roasting in hell), what need is there for anything further?” He added: “This inner contradiction has remained to plague Christians throughout the centuries.”
One result of such errant theology was that “since Augustine’s time [354-430 C.E.], the church has condemned suicide as a sin,” says Arthur Droge in the Bible Review, “a sin beyond redemption, just like apostasy and adultery.”
Jesus told a criminal sentenced to death: “You will be with me in Paradise.” The man was unrighteous, a lawbreaker rather than a distraught suicide victim, guilty by his own frank admission. (Luke 23:39-43) He had no hope of going to heaven to rule with Jesus. So the Paradise in which this thief could hope to come back to life would be the beautiful earth under the rule of Jehovah God’s Kingdom. Matthew 6:9, 10; Revelation 21:1-4.
For what purpose will God awaken this criminal? So that He mercilessly can hold his past sins against him? Hardly, for Romans 6:7, 23 says: “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin,” and “the wages sin pays is death.” Although his past sins will not be accounted to him, he will still need the ransom to lift him to perfection.
Only God can fully understand the role of mental sickness, extreme stress, even genetic defects, in a “suicidal crisis,” which, the National Observer noted, “is not a lifetime characteristic [but] often a matter only of minutes or of hours.”
Granted, one who takes his own life deprives himself of the opportunity to repent of his self-murder. But who can say whether one driven to suicide might have had a change of heart had his fatal attempt failed? Some notorious murderers have, in fact, changed and earned God’s forgiveness during their lifetime.
Thus, Jehovah, having paid “a ransom in exchange for many,” His Son, is within his right to extend mercy, even to some self-murderers, by resurrecting them and giving them the precious opportunity to “repent and turn to God by doing works that befit repentance.”
The Scriptures encourage us to see ourselves, not as immortal souls, but as valuable creations of the God who loves us, who treasures our being alive, and who looks forward with joy to the time of the resurrection.
4000 years had passed from Adam & Eve, Jesus said to a Religious Leader that no one had gone to Heaven, and millions of people had passed away in death. This is a quote from the King James Bible:
John 3:13 " And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven,"
it seems to me, this would eliminate the "immortal soul" belief, not only that, if you go to Heaven or Hell when you die, you completely do away with the resurrection that the Bible speaks about, because the resurrection is suppose to take place after Jesus comes the second time, and that has not happened.
2006-10-24 00:14:30
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answered by BJ 7
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That's horrible, and so sad! But I must say, in my religion (Islam) people who suicide can never go to heaven! I'm sorry, but GOD said you should live as long as GOD wants you to live as long as much as you can, it is up to GOD to decide when you die.
*And please don't bring up any suicide bombers from Afganistan to counter act this, because, those people are not true Muslims! Those people might be muslims by name, but it is the heart and soul that determines who you are and if your faithful to GOD. GOD hears and sees not only what you say and do outside but knows all that you think inside your mind! People can't be Muslims just by name, you have to truly believe and fear GOD.*
2006-10-23 21:17:47
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answered by positive 3
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One thing is certain--they have no more sorrow, so don't worry about them. The sorrow is with those who miss them. It's natural to be sad that they are gone, that so much life was wasted. But don't forget to celebrate who they were, too. Miss them, but don't worry about them.
2006-10-23 21:31:58
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answered by Anonymous
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