anyone tell me why.. saudi women line up, waiting for the toilets not only take of their veils, but change into the sexiest western fasionable clothes once the plane is out of saudi airspace. Yet many pakistani and bangladeshi women wear one in the uk, when its not worm in either country culturally and never has been. does this say somthing maybee?
2006-10-23 09:25:38 · 13 answers · asked by tom 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Immigration
I"m sorry but as far as I am concerned, ANYBODY that wants to come to our beloved England should accept our culture and way of life. Surely that's why they came here in the first place. If they don"t want to change then they have the alternative of going back to their homeland.
2006-10-23 10:05:10 · answer #1 · answered by researcher 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Quite Correct. I’m of Pakistani origin and fail to understand this dilemma myself. I understand anyone who wants to wear the veil of their free will and for religious reasons(and mean no offence by this).However from my observations the veil has become more of a fashion trend and statement of rebellion against western values. As I have visited Pakistan over last few years it has become more and more popular without any previous cultural traditions. More so with the younger generation. Not only in Pakistan but within the second or third generation British Muslims as well. The generation of my parents rarely wore veils in Pakistan hence I do not understand why more and more women are putting them on. This can only led me to believe ( from my own experiences) that second and third generation British Muslims are being isolated and picked upon by the media and other establishments. This further adds fuel to the rebellion they have for western values and they assume more conservative Islamic values(as a sign of protest). Its a negative cycle as this further isolates. The reason why they don’t follow their Arab counterpart (this only an assumption) is because they feel that these types of Arab have been corrupted by wealth. I don’t have any answers , only my observations and experiences. I hope this gives you insight into this matter.
2006-10-23 10:15:39 · answer #2 · answered by xov p 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think that the ones who insist on wearing it in the UK are making a stand against the West.
The ones who live in The middle East already know where they are from - they don't need to wear all this stuff to confirm their identity, they love to wear western clothes when they can and feel sexy and womanly.
The ones who live in this country are desperate to stay in touch with their heritage and many - like the teacher in this whole veil dispute - who has links to the mosque used by the 7/7 bombers - are involved with anti western feelings and sentiments, which is why this woman is making all this damned fuss. She just wants to protest against and defy the West.
If she is so against the West and hates the thought of losing her Islamic identity then surely a sensible option would be to move to an Islamic state? Is she only staying here because of the NHS and benefit system and higher standard of living in the UK than in most Islamic states, espeically places like Afghanistan and Pakistan where there is genuine poverty.
2006-10-23 11:24:41 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Some of the answers made me think here, that is why I am answering. A woman's beauty should belong to her man and her family only? To her family - ok, but to her man?! I am sorry, if a man, husband, is very special, respects me, feels I am equal to him (women equal to men), then I agree totally. But as far as I know, Muslim women are not equal to men (maybe except in Turkey), so - what then makes him so special that my beauty should belong only to him? I as a woman do first and most of all how I feel, how it works best for me. Men comes 2nd, but I am 1st. Do not misunderstand me, I do not show off - do not wear make up, no tight clothes, never provocative, etc. But anyway I think that women today are so misrepresented, their role so de-emphasized - from a man - that I as a woman will not pay this price. Then why God has created both sexes, if a woman is less than a man? And then yet reward him with pleasing him and do what he expects. No, thanks.
2006-10-23 22:38:51 · answer #4 · answered by Romi G 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If a law is passed that prohibits "anything" in your country or others - that's just the way it is. Whether you like the decision or dislike it, doesn't matter.
Of course, if it is life threatening to "anyone", I can see a concern. Removing a particular of clothing is not life threatening. If it truly upsets those of another faith or country - then they must go to a country that allows this.
If people are wearing these "veils" and are not of a specific culture - I think it is probably a message that they carry. A very dangerous one today.
2006-10-23 09:40:25 · answer #5 · answered by Paige2 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Hi! I can tell you I am a white American and moved to Pakistan to live with my husband and his family there. We had an arranged Islamic marriage.
I had never taken a 'veil' prior to this. Coming from the culture that I've been raised in it was strange. But with time I came to understand the importance of it and I took the veil the entire time that I lived there. I would like to take the veil again here in the US but it is not culturally acceptable here and I don't like to draw attention to myself.
I have a high respect for women who take the veil entirely because they are following their religious faith that they should be modest and cover themselves. We are women, we are beautiful by nature and that beauty should only belong to husbands and to family. I have a new respect for myself as a woman now that I never had before. I have always felt out of place being brought up to wear tight jeans and bathing suits that 'show' everything.
Call me crazy but taking the veil gave me some personal freedom to respect my body and it also gave my husband a deep sense that I am commited to only him. I still wear cosmetics, I still paint my nails, but I am also still a faithful converted muslim and this is above all else the most important thing in my life. I do not drink or eat pork. I do not sit with other men outside of my family. This is not because some man gave me fear it's because I chose it.
I am tired of people making the excuse that women who take the veil are weak and controlled by men! We are simply following our faith and serving Allah. It may not be popular but I know that it is right for ME and I want the same for my daughter and her daughter. I hope that one day I will no longer have 'fear' to take the veil in my own home country (USA) and that someday I can be free to practice this without hearing someone throw insults at me or calling me a terrorist because of someone else' political agenda. It's very sad and very unfair and totally against what this country stands for.
2006-10-23 10:06:48 · answer #6 · answered by Mom_of_two 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Very Good Point. I was brought up in Oman, in the middle east and had many Filthy Rich Arab Girlfriends who would wear the most modern clothes underneath their Burkhas and get changed as soon as they got away from their homes. Theres a Pakistani married girl at my work who drinks, smokes and shags around. I think all the religious and traditional pressures just get them sexually and emotionally frustrated. The women are brought up to fear men and surely thats wrong.
2006-10-23 09:33:39 · answer #7 · answered by myra 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
When are people going to realise that if you start by taking away this freedom to wear what you choose then it is going to be easily extended. Where will it stop? It may not affect you now but it soon will be developed into something that will affect you. The debate will then change to can you wear a crucifix, or other religious symbols, can you wear jeans, trainers hoodies etc. Freedoms are harder to get back than to take away. Don't give away freedoms.
2006-10-23 21:56:16 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes, it's being done as provocation to the people who allowed them to live here. It's the equivalent of "neener neener" because if we say anything then of course we are racist, anti-islam and must have jihads and fatwas proclaimed against us.
It is not and never has been a religious item of clothing, it's a cultural one. And not a british cultural one either. Time the thing was banned in Britain.
2006-10-23 10:33:58 · answer #9 · answered by Lynn S 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
it's not just saudi women who do that...when i was at college the muslim girls would come into the toilets get dressed into english clothes, put on make up and then go to classes. at the end of the day there'd be a mad rush to get to the toilets to beat the queue!
2006-10-23 09:41:00 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋