How does that make any sense? How can you say the work of the devil has nothing to do with God?? In the bible, it has EVERYTHING to do with god!!
The bible-myth says that god is the alpha and omega, the beginning and ending, god knows the future and the past. He already knows the choices we will all make with our free will. He already knows how it turns out!! he is/knows the future already!!
Bible-myth claims that bible-god MADE THE DEVIL. He MADE SATAN. He also knew the future, and thus, KNEW EVERYTHING THAT SATAN WOULD DO, ONCE HE CREATED HIM and turned him loose onto the earth. You can't surprise god, he already knows all! How can you say that has nothing to do with god? GOD CREATED EVERYTHNG, including satan, according to your myth. He set everything into motion, already knowing the outcome!!
Is it a "rule" for christians to throw intelligence, logic and reason right out the window? Is that the only way you can make the cult myths work out in your heads??
2006-10-22 21:23:36 · 31 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
again, some of you oepn your mouths and parrot (recite) the things you are used to hearing in church, but YOU DON'T THINK!
you keep talking about FREE WILL and how god hopes we use it. According to bible-cult-myth, bible-god ALREADY KNOWS THE FUTURE. He already knows who will use free will, who won't. He already knows what choices people will make, HE ALREADY KNOWS THE OUTCOME!! No surprises. Nothing is going to happen that he didn't already know. You say he hopes we choose, using our free will, to have a relationship with him. Are you that mindless?? According to bible-myth, he already had that. He already had my soul -- he had ALL souls already! Why send them down here when he knows over 70% of them will reject the bible-cult? HE ALREADY KNOWS THE OUTCOME!! Those he knows he will send to hell, he already knew that he would. He already knew the outcome! Your argument is circular, and ridiculous. Your argument keeps asserting that god is a mindless, illogical buffoon!
2006-10-22 21:51:19 · update #1
See all Christians are morons, but the have a superb strategy since
the 1st centuary.
Everthing that contradicts the Bible is work of devil,
We are right everything else is wrong,
If you do not believe in us go to hell,
We will try all means to show you the light in the Dark Ages, we used Spanish rack, stakes, torture devices etc to prove to the non believers.
In modern days we just bore people to death with our illogical rants,
We dont know how Adam and Eve were the truth except something written in the Book.
(They cannot explain if Adam and Eve were Black, White, Chinese Hispanic or multiracial)
They cannot explain why all human beings do not bear one Dna
signature if we all are product of incest.
All major schools of western World teach evolution (and their crap of creationism is flushed down the toilet)
2006-10-22 21:58:38 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
Your entire argument has a fatal flaw in it. You have locked God into a humans way of thinking. You are trying to say that God knows ahead of time what we will do and therefor negates our free will. He does not. I'll make it simple for you. I place an apple on a table before you, I know you will 1 eat said apple or 2 you will not eat said apple. There are two trains of thought there, eat or dont eat. I already know youll do one of the two. Now take that to intentions, I already know you intend to eat the apple or you don't. God already knows your intentions. Your actions don't matter in life, the intentions of ones heart is all that matters. Lets say you have a choice between murdering someone and not murdering someone. If you chose not to murder someone because youll end up in prison versus because you know it's wrong, what is the true intention of your actions? All good and bad comes from God with the devil being the vehicle chosen to deliver bad. Look no further then Job for this. Your question in and of itself could be answered. Yet the paragraph you wrote is designed to cause strife. You really don't have any intentions of trying to create dialouge to learn anything.
2006-10-23 05:51:29 · answer #2 · answered by Triple 1 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Um, HELLO!!!!!!
Do you have children?????
Have you ever watched kids act up?????
Just because kids act up doesn't mean they are doing their parents will or acting in accordance with what their parents want.
Intelligence, logic and reason indeed!!!
Any parent will tell you that they know exactly what their kids are going to do and how they will act up, they just don't know when or what kind of fit they will throw next.
The devil is just a spoiled brat that is rebelling against Dad because he's mad Dad said the younger kids (man/soul, spirit and body) are better than the older kids (angels/spirit only).
You might actually want to READ the bible before you ask such a silly question.
Yeah, Dad may already know how spoiled and evil His children are (present company is an excellent example) but that doesn't mean He doesn't love us, hope we will change, come around and become good kids or love us and wants to give all His children every chance He can before He gets so pi$$ed off He decides to destroy us all.
2006-10-23 04:47:58 · answer #3 · answered by sworddove 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
It seems that you ask nothing else but questions about religion. I know that you do not believe, but you seem to be on a crusade to throw out the window all intelligence, logic and reason that a believer might have to acquire this belief that you are so angry over and want to destroy. Shame on you, saying the Christian religion is a myth, and cults, etc. The reason it does not make sense to you, is that you are closed minded and probably have never even been to church, nor read the Bible very much. You really do not know much at all about religion, and you keep asking questions about it. Why don't you get down on your knees and ask God to come to you and forgive your sins, and maybe one day, if you are ever really sincere, He will change your life, and you will know what makes Christians changed and happy. You will never find out asking over and over again, until you find our for yourself. Try it and you might be surprised. You are mixing up intelligence with ignorance and stuff like you are saying which really make no sense. The devil does a lot of bad stuff, work it out in your head.
I just read more of your ranting and babbling, just calm down, man, you will never get it no matter how many questions you ask. Just go take some Xanax for anxiety attacks. You will feel better, we are never going to buy your opinions, bitter comments, or insults. We know better than you, and it bugs you......
2006-10-23 04:35:00 · answer #4 · answered by shardf 5 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Even after starting with your underlying suppossition (that Christians segregate the works of Satan from those of God), which is simply based in neither the teachings of the Bible nor in the practices of any of the Christian faiths around the globe, you still make several leaps of logic (and faith) to reach the conclusion that, because God created an entity who would cause harm, God must be an illogical, ill-conceived myth.
Yet, if you examine the underlying tenet of Christianity (that God so loved the world that he gave His only son), which postulates that because love is the guiding force of human life even the most heinous of sins can be forgiven if the penentant is truly sorry, the "Bible-myth" of Satan makes perfect sense. You see, within the alleged logical construct you have devised to debunk Christianity, you have actually proven its basic premise-- for, if God was not all-loving and merciful, why would He have created an entity which would oppose Him for almost all of eternity?
Secondly, I must find some fault with your propostion that God created "Satan"-- technically, an angel was created who, by his own free will, chose evil and thus became the devil. Once again, even if you assume that Christianity is a myth, then the turning of the angel into the devil (by abuse of free will) serves a mighty prophetic tone for all who may be tempted to abuse their (God-given) freedoms, for the price for those sins is separation from God.
Consequently, the Christian story of love and forgiveness is deeply rooted in the logic of the Bible-- although you most probably dispute the underlying historical truth of the stories recounted in the Bible, for those who accept the book's tales (or who at least accept that the stories of the Old Testament serve as important allegories and prophecies), Christianity makes logical sense- and accepting that there is more in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in our realities (which Christians believe is answered by the existence of an all-knowing, all-powerful creator), guides those of us to accept the logical construct of Christian (that, if sinners can be given free will in an abundant world with ample opportunity to seek redemption and forgiveness, then we should strive to forgive those who have wronged us). Plus, it helps us to be tolerant of the poor exercise of God-given logic seemingly practiced by this Question's poser.
2006-10-23 04:56:18 · answer #5 · answered by Just another opinionated dad 1 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Ah the question Of a fool. myth. belief my friend is upon your heart. You foolishly charge god in your own ignorance, and the vast majority of so called Christians are decieved, they have bought into lies, and I can see by your question that you see thier own deception, The problem with what you present requires an anwser that would take a long time to explain. but let me point you to wisdom and Facts the bible was printed in the so called Jewish 6th day of man it has exactly 66 books. Now think 666 but to expond even futher most religious books were printed in the 6th day of man year. Now if you actuallly intensively read the bible you will find that the word of God IS FREE do you know what free means???? The bible is just a bunch of stories true yes but stories. Only the true seekers will see what is hidden in the bible and what is hidden in the koran and what is hidden in most so called HOL Y BOOKS the books are not holy it is the person that is Holy Remember that if you forget all else typed here.
2006-10-23 04:42:58 · answer #6 · answered by Brother John 3 · 0⤊ 3⤋
you are very confusing....when a person is saying it doesn't have anything to do with God, what they mean, at least what i mean, everyone always wants to blame God for everything good and bad, and people forget the devil is loose on this earth, and he does everything he can to get a person away from God, but most people think if something bad happens it's God punishing them, and its not........and answer a question or you a Christian, or just someone that thinks they know what all Christians think,....cult myth......so whats your believe do you believe you will turn to fertilizer too
2006-10-23 04:37:57 · answer #7 · answered by purpleaura1 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
God hasn't decided yet on who's going to heaven or who's going to Hell. He hasn't chose yet because it's obviously not Judgement Day! Sure, he knew that mankind would be a sinful, rebellious people because he's all-knowing, but that doesn't mean he judged us before he created us. Choosing God is winning extra browny points towards a good outcome on Judgement Day. He might choose not to cast me in Hell, he hasn't passed judgement on anyone yet. If he did, we'd be standing in front of him. I have to wait 'til Judgement Day to see what he decides, when I'm standing before him. He's all-knowing though, yes. He knew that I'd be sinful, and He knows that he'll have to make a decision on Judgement Day whether I eternally live or die. That's why He said "Repent while there's still time." Because one day he will have to judge your fate. SO, the bottomline is, he might have known ALL your choices and the life you'd live, before he created you, but he obviously hasn't passed judgement on you yet, otherwise you'd of been in Hell a LONG time ago! So there's obviously still time to change before he decides your fate, even though he knew you'd sin.
2006-10-23 05:39:03 · answer #8 · answered by Loathe thy neighbor. 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Good for you . you got everything right . now the Christians have to untie the Gorgons knot that they created with wrong thinking.Going to be a hard job as they cannot even keep the names of their evil ones straight.
The CREATOR made SATAN to be a tempter . The DEVIL means a follower of SATAN.DAEMONS are followers of the DEVIL.
When Christianity started the as above so below from another religion . they had to import evil ones from other religions to fill the9 levels of Hell as their are 9 levels of heaven the 9th being the CREATORS THRONE.What a unnecessary mess.
2006-10-23 04:41:39 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
holy crapp! another great question from you, 7 lights. i loved another one you asked earlier too. you have really done your research.
i totally agree, especially where you point out the illogic of a god who already "knows the future and the past. He already knows the choices we will all make with our free will. He already knows how it turns out!! he is/knows the future already!!"
It defies logic, and to use a term you used earlier: it's a fatal flaw in the Bible.
it's pretty amazing how angry the people get here, when you point out the flaws in the Bible!
2006-10-23 04:37:36 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋