People need to keep having children....?

Question

to keep the human race going so why time upon time, do people make mothers feel bad for taking maternity pay, needing time of work for childrens illnesses etc....

And as for people 'sponging of the state', the 'state' needs to support families or people would stop having kids!

Thats my rant over...!

Also before you judge my position I am a happily married mother, worker and home owner reciving no state benifits! Thats becasue I've been lucky - others aren't.

Answer 1

I don't know but you have a good question/point.

Some people take advantage of the state. That really irritates me. The benefits are there for people who need it, you know... NEED IT, not because the people don't wanna get off their tail feathers and work. I gave up my foodstamps because I was able to afford food even though I qualified.

Are you talking about employers getting irritated at mothers who have to take care of their children? I was a manager once, and we had mothers who would make up stories about their kids being sick in order to get out of work. This really irritated me because what happened if the child actually came up sick and used the excuse too many times, and the boss wouldn't let them get off work? Then you have the issue of job neglect. But in other terms, I think management thinks that they own their workers and get upset because some management just sit on their tail feathers and make everyone else do their job.

Answer 2

I feel that it is a gift to be able to bare children and women should get the maternity pay and benefits if the small biz people cant afford it the maybe there should be a type of insurance the small biz people could pay then it wouldn't hurt there business so much kinda like life insurance.. but any way i think every American deserves funding from the state that's one thing that makes this country great what i don't think is people should abuse this system. I hope they can obtain more control over the abuse that goes on because like every good thing it will be ruined.by selfish people and to add I have been on food stamps and stuff but i used them to get on my feet after my life changed for the worse medical problem but now I am so lucky to of had the state to back me up .. the thing is if we look at the crime rate it is because the parents cant provide the time to there children they let someone Else raise them during important developing years if more mothers took better care of there children this world would be a better place cause there is nothing better than a mothers love when sick or other wise .. but I fell that mothers should not be treated as a man would when the time comes that they give the world life it keeps the world going and what not.

Answer 3

I've been a single mother who received no benefits - lived in another country with no welfare state. When my husband walked out on me, leaving me with a toddler and a 4 month old baby, I was desperate. In fact, I contemplated suicide.
I married my British husband and when we both lost our jobs I was grateful to the State for the financial help until I found another.
I try to remember how I felt when I condemn those mothers on State benefits. I do get a bit miffed when we have to pay so much tax, though. I live near an estate and there are definitely women who know exactly what they're doing and use the benefits system as a career.
I wonder too, how many women would love to stay at home and look after their children but can't afford to, because they're paying for other women to stay at home.
All in all,it's complicated. I think we should go the American route and set a time limit on the benefits - 5 years. And women under 21 should live with their babies with her parents. Yes, I know that's hard.
As for working mothers - well, I also feel a bit odd about this one. I know how hard it is to work when you've got women taking time off all the time.
There's no easy answer. Children should always come first, but people shouldn't abuse the state, either.

Answer 4

I think people would be less judgemental if your first statement were true. The world is becoming overpopulated, we don't need as many kids as humans are producing.

People would also give more slack if kids were brought up properly. I did one of my rare trips around a shopping precinct this weekend, i felt battered and bruised when i got home. I got the impression that the world is out of control and no-one controls thier kids. I know this is a generalisation, maye it was national "let all the idiots gather at Cheshire Oaks" weekend", I don't know. But I certainly did see any kids I would have been proud of. So why should I pay my taxes if parents are not going to make an effort ?

Also, people has less tolerance to maternity/taking time off etc because its a relatively new thing. As recently as 30 years ago the mother didn't have a career, her job was to bring ip the kids so there was no issue with maternity or ad-hoc working due to kids. The western world is still evolving to this new mindset.

Finally, I'm not sure I understand why lower paid childess couples have to contribute to subsardies to couples who earn more but have kids ( child tax allowance ). It doesn't make any sense to me. If you are single and earn £20K, you contrubte to someone who is on £75K and has kids....why ?

I'm in neither of these positions so its not a personally gripe, i just can see where resentment would come from

Answer 5

Im sorry that people think that mothers are spongers. I PAY my taxes and have done for the past 8 years!, now Im 5 months pregnant and still working, so can someone please explain why I shouldnt get the help from the state ( that I am entitled to) when I need it most, all women are entitled to maternity pay even though it is only 90% of their average wage and do not include the numerous hours that have been worked overtime( which is everyday in my job).

Answer 6

The world is over populated and there's no need for every women to have a child. It's sort of ridiculous. While, I'm against the idea that we need to keep breeding and that every women should have a child, simply because I refuse to have a child, I don't mind when other women have babies. I'm also Canadian though so more of a left winged socialist than my greedy American neighbours.

I do get awfully annoyed when women call themselves full time mothers and refuse to work and stay at home especially when they have no other source of income. That's just plain lazy in my veiw. My mother worked, went to school full time and managed to keep house and raise a few children that turned out to be rather worthwhile adults if I must say so myself. I just can't see how being a stay at home mother especially one living off of welfare is at all justified or a good example for young daughters and sons given the society that we live in.

Answer 7

I don't care about 'sponging' the state, and I think anyone has the right to have children. But I do object to people who have children and have no means to support them or raise them, or have them to make up their relationship. Unfortunately I have met many children whose parents are not able to give their children the love and support they need.
Of course it's good to contribute to society and the future of any society lies in the children, but you should really know the consequences for you, for your child and for society what it means having kids.
And of course, if the rate of childbirth stays the same as it is now, soon there will be too many people on this earth, polluting and consuming and just plain breathing and living, and there will be no more resources left to support that many people. Eventually people will be extinct because of that, or loose half of humanity because of wars, sickness or pollution.
I'd say, have children when you can and want it, but not more then two.

Answer 8

If a single mother, or any mother for that matter has a couple of children and cannot support them and lives of benefits. I think they are wrong to have more and live off the state, also they shouldnt want to have more kids if they cannot support them. People wouldnt stop having kids, but the line needs to be drawn somewhere and stop them draining the already drained welfare system. So your rant is not justified.

Answer 9

I've always loved the "I don't pay taxes to support these people" line. Usually the people who need assistance pay taxes as well, so they are paying for themselves in a way.

Those benefits are there for a reason. For people who need it until they can get back on their feet. Granted, some people do take advantage of that, but you'll always have people like that in life.

I think a good rule is only have as many kids as you can afford. When you can't afford another one, intentionally popping out 2 more, probably isn't the smartest idea.

Answer 10

i don't have a problem with maternity pay as such but, I'm just about to start a small business and fear if i take someone on i may have to pay them maternity leave and then hire someone else to cover for them. This i believe is unsustainable for most smaller companies. 85%of the companies is this country are small enterprises and feel that it is very hard to afford staff.

I have also worked in companies where Young mothers have returned after maternity leave and they expect to still be considered for promotion, i believe this is unfair for several reasons, firstly everyone has had to do more work to cover her leave (at no extra pay) and secondly she is no longer as committed to the job as people without children because rightly so the child comes first.

Let me put it to you this way, why should i, as someone who has decided that i can't afford to have a child, who works hard and puts in extra hours and effort into the job be on the same playing field as someone who has had a child and just had six off to have a baby.

This may seem harsh but what do people who can't have children, don't what them or decide they can't afford to get? Nothing!