why could not the playing of the harp help Saul out any more when David played tha harp for him; Saul through a spear at David . WHY did the harp not work on Saul that day? When it was primetied by GOD.?
2006-10-22 11:06:23 · 6 answers · asked by JAY K 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
The expression "bad spirit of Jehovah" is an interesting one. The Scriptures themselves help bible students to recognize that the expression "bad spirit from Jehovah" refers to the impelling mental inclination that may dominate in a person from whom Jehovah has removed his own Holy Spirit.
The Scriptural account regarding Abimilech and Shechem helps bible students to see this "bad spirit" does not actually ORIGINATE from Jehovah, but rather is PERMITTED by Him. These verses also help reveal that a violent mindset may be involved for an individual who has purposely alienated himself from Jehovah and Jehovah's Holy Spirit.
(Judges 9:23-24) Then God let develop a bad spirit between Abimelech and the landowners of Shechem, and the landowners of Shechem proceeded to deal treacherously with Abimelech, 24 that the violence done to the seventy sons of Jerubbaal might come
Even regarding King Saul, the Scriptures quite plainly explain that the "bad spirit" which troubled Saul actually resulted when Jehovah removed His Holy Spirit from Saul.
(1 Samuel 16:14) And the very spirit of Jehovah departed from Saul, and a bad spirit from Jehovah terrorized him
It was not the harp-playing which calmed Saul's insomnia and violent disposition, but rather the Holy Spirit which was bestowed upon Saul as long as Saul was working to Jehovah's purposes instead of Saul's own purposes. Jehovah apparently read Saul's heart, and during the moments when Saul's thoughts were ungodly, then Jehovah proceeded to remove his Holy Spirit from Saul. It was the removal of Holy Spirit which allowed Saul's troubled mindset to escalate to a murderous one.
(1 Samuel 16:23) When God's spirit came to be upon Saul, David took the harp and played with his hand; and there was relief for Saul and it was well with him, and the bad spirit departed from upon him.
(1 Samuel 18:10-12) God's bad spirit became operative upon Saul, so that he behaved like a prophet within the house, while David was playing music with his hand, as in former days; and the spear was in Saul's hand. 11 And Saul proceeded to hurl the spear and say: "I will pin David even to the wall!" but David turned aside from before him, twice. 12 And Saul grew afraid of David because Jehovah proved to be with him, but from Saul he had departed.
It seems clear that King Saul was intent on rebelling against God and Saul's own vow of peace toward David. Saul undeniably alienated himself from Jehovah's Holy Spirit when he stubbornly picked up a spear during that last musical performance by David.
(1 Samuel 19:1-10) Saul spoke to Jonathan his son and to all his servants of putting David to death...4 Accordingly Jonathan spoke well of David to Saul his father and said to him: "Do not let the king sin... 6... Saul swore: "As Jehovah is living, [David] will not be put to death." ...9 And Jehovah's bad spirit came to be upon Saul when he was sitting in his house with his spear in his hand, while David was playing music with his hand. 10 Consequently Saul sought to pin David to the wall with the spear, but he dodged from before Saul, so that he struck the spear into the wall. And David himself fled that he might escape
This account helps bible students to appreciate that they must 'make their minds over' and do God's will rather than their own.
(Romans 12:2) Be transformed by making your mind over, that you may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God
(2 Corinthians 5:15) [Jesus] died for all that those who live might live no longer for themselves
Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/library/rq/article_16.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/20020215/article_01.htm
2006-10-25 06:43:51 · answer #1 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Music is a wonderful gift from God, provided for our enjoyment and for which we should be appreciative. Music can affect us in a variety of ways. It can cheer us up, make us happy, incite us, calm us, and even help us to go to sleep. But it has no magical properties.
Saul’s failure to obey Jehovah indicated a bad inclination of mind and heart, against which God’s spirit offered Saul no protection or resistive force.The servants of King Saul of ancient Israel arranged for David to play on his harp, and as a result “there was relief for Saul and it was well with him, and the bad spirit departed from upon him.”—1 Sam. 16:14-23.
Saul had placed David over the men of war. This eventually resulted in David’s being celebrated in song more than the king himself. Saul, therefore, came to view David with suspicion and envious hatred.
Instead of recognising that Jehovahs blessing was with David and through him the nations enemies would be defeated Saul allowed himself to show improper jealousy, without adequate cause. He discontentedly desired the good fortune and attainments of David.
Jealousy is fleshly, not spiritual. It has a detrimental effect on one’s physical health, for “a calm heart is the life of the fleshly organism, but jealousy is rottenness to the bones.” (Pr 14:30) It can be more destructive than rage or anger because it may be more deep-rooted, more lasting and persistent. Therefore Saul in his deranged state came to sin against Gods spirit. (The unforgivable sin Matthew 12:32)
2006-10-23 03:51:20 · answer #2 · answered by hollymichal 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Jehovah makes Sprite?
2006-10-22 11:12:26 · answer #3 · answered by Gwen 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
its not the the harp was not working but his heart was so far gone in sin from GOD that the worship of GOD thru the harp did not matter no more to him his heart was closed to GOD so GOD gave him to the hardness of his heart
2006-10-22 11:13:55 · answer #4 · answered by gustvh2001 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
God doesn't seem like a very nice guy does he?
2006-10-22 11:09:41 · answer #5 · answered by The Chaos Within 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Maybe this is rude of me to bring this up, but please use your spell check. It hurts my brain to read your question.
2006-10-22 11:38:27 · answer #6 · answered by Bob L 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋