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Hi, I have a 5 month old border collie who is having trouble house training!
When she is in her crate she will bark when she needs the toilet.
When shes outside she always goes in the right place (we trained her to go in the alley next to our house) and if the back door is open, she will go outside herself...however, if the back door is shut, she will make no attempt to bark, she will poo/pee in the house.

I don't understand why she does this, as when we find it, she runs to her bed, so she knows it is wrong, any suggestions???

2006-10-22 03:04:09 · 13 answers · asked by Resolution 3 in Pets Dogs

13 answers

Be patient with her, it can take 6-9mths to toilet train a pup. She knows to go outside and has learned how to ask when in her bed but not when out of it. You need to find a way for her to 'ask' to go out. A good thing is to train her to go on command- use a word like toilet or busy or wotever, take her back to being a baby and go out every hour to start, say the word when she goes and praise her up big time. then b4 u go out with her take a treat/ball/toy to reward her and get her to give paw close to the door- touch the door with paw+ praise, do this every time you go out gradually letting her touch the door by her self, being a collie she will pick this up quickly and hay presto she will start to ask. Bear in mind any accidents are YOUR fault as peeing inside is only innappropriate for you not her and you should have taken her out earlier. It will come with time (it took my beast 12months- but he is v stupid). see www.apbc.co.uk for dog trainers and advice. Good luck.

2006-10-22 07:14:44 · answer #1 · answered by squishthefishies 2 · 0 2

Is she kept in a separate room? No offence intended, it's just thats what it sounds like. If she has to bark to get your attention that is. I have two dogs and they are both let out (whether they need it or not) at regular intervals, say every half an hour to an hour or so. My great dane will also do a dance (ie let me out or i'm gonna flood your living room! *stamping around like an elephant* dance) when she wants out, but she has the run of the whole house. If you saw her you would understand why lol. They will also stare at the back door a lot then look at you, which signals toilet time. I could see why you might be keeping her separate because she sometimes just goes in the house. It's a tricky one... I would keep a close eye on her (I know its impossible to watch them ALL the time) and when you see her starting to exhibit her 'I'm gonna go' behaviour, try and let her out as quick as possible. That way she will learn that the only place she is allowed to go is outside. If all else fails I would either contact your breeder (or any Border Collie breeder) or your vet. They might be able to suggest something more effective.

Sorry if this isn't much help but it's really tricky lol. You must be at your wits end. Good Luck!

2006-10-22 03:18:33 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Hi Jan
Shes still learning, It takes a while, My westie was the same would have gone when i opened the door for her, but like yours when she had to go she made no signs in telling me. This is what i did....When i let her out the back and she done all she had to do,i would give her a treat and tell her great girl,,, then tell her push push to close the door after her,(bet you think i am crazy) but it worked, she scratches the door now even when she don't want out just to get that treat. I wish you all the best and good luck with you dog, Keep trying

2006-10-22 03:39:19 · answer #3 · answered by chass_lee 6 · 0 0

When you find it as you say, she doesn't know it is wrong she is picking up from you that you are angry but she hasn't a clue why! Within a very short time of a dog going to the loo anywhere they have forgotten, don't tell her off unless you actually catch her in the act and only then say to her a very firm 'NO' and take her outside to the place she uses, my 6 mth old GSD stares at me when she wants to go out and if I wasn't tuned into it we would have had lots of messes around the place, watch out for her body language just before she needs to go to the toilet, not all dogs bark for attention, I'm sorry to say this but it isn't her fault she doesn't get out in time it is yours! I'm not saying this to be nasty but you have to learn to 'read' your dog!
Good luck

2006-10-22 03:19:05 · answer #4 · answered by Pawstimes16 4 · 0 1

border collies are amazing dogs and usually quite smart and easy to train not saying youll have no problems but everyone encounters them
okay so i have curerently a 9 years old black lab had her since she was a puppy
we had quite the problem raining her to but the best thing to train her is when she does relieve herself in the house make sure you tell her she was bad and that it is a no no and the take a plastic bag and pick it up and bring it outside to where she would usually relieve her self and when she goes outside she will relize her sent and will start to learn that, that is her place to go and if she does not warn you guys then maby you have to buy a contraption for the door so she go whenever she wants one of those doggy doors

2006-10-22 03:36:42 · answer #5 · answered by filicia b 2 · 0 2

This is a matter of Pavlovian (classic) conditioning. In essence, your dog is associating urination and bowel movements with the state of the door (open versus closed). For example, you might set up some bells for your dog to ring when she needs to go. You'll need to reward her and encourage her when she does the right thing. When she doesn't, you'll need to properly punish her. By the way, you don't need to use bells. It's just one suggestion.

I also looked around for information on cleaning up pet urine. Hopefully that will help you when accidents do occur.

2006-10-22 03:27:52 · answer #6 · answered by human_factors 2 · 0 1

First, I hope evo never owns a pet.

When she is out of the cage make sure you take her out after she eats and after she wakes from sleeping. If you see her starting to sniff around a lot, take her out, she might be trying to find a place to go.
She barks when she's in the cage because they don't like to mess where they sleep.
She is still young and still learning.

2006-10-22 03:23:25 · answer #7 · answered by kitt_kattkitt 3 · 0 1

It comes down to her feeding regime.

You need to time her feeds and water with regular toileting breaks soon after. If she has access to food/water throughout the day you won't be able to gauge when she needs to go! 20-30 mins after she has had food/water should signal toilet time!

Just have patience, you'll soon see the results!

2006-10-22 03:17:19 · answer #8 · answered by Witchywoo 4 · 0 1

Don't wait for her to tell you when she has to make. Let her out at regular intervals and she'll go outside all the time. The trick for you is to never let her have a chance to make inside.
Good luck.

2006-10-22 03:13:54 · answer #9 · answered by Ginbail © 6 · 1 1

special puppy training mats the smell something in it and the do the loo there and when she does tell her good girl and take her out walkies regularly

2006-10-22 06:12:01 · answer #10 · answered by Panda-chan. 2 · 0 0

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