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...."You must be born again. The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."

I know this is in referrence to becoming Christian; but really, what does it even mean?

People aren't supposed to be able to tell where a Christian came from? Isn't it a useful witnessing tool when you can show some potential convert the crappy life you used to lead before you were born again?

And people also can't tell where a Christian is going? So that means when someone says that they're going to heaven... they're not truly born again?

I dunno, I think everyone who claims to be born again nowadays is missing Jesus' point. It sounds to me like he really wanted you to become ninjas.

2006-10-22 02:27:17 · 18 answers · asked by Eldritch 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Sorry, forgot to add the reference.

John 3:3-8

2006-10-22 02:33:35 · update #1

Lol, just as I expected. There a lot of "you need to be born again because this and this verse says so."

But none of "Here's a point by point explanation of your question."

2006-10-22 02:41:42 · update #2

Oh, and it is (for once) pretty clear that Jesus is not saying that the spirit of God is like the wind, at least not in this verse. He says straight out that the PEOPLE born of the spirit are like the wind.
i.e. ninjas.

2006-10-22 02:55:39 · update #3

18 answers

I wouldn't listen to those who brag loudly about being born-again believers

2006-10-22 02:31:36 · answer #1 · answered by owner4nothing 3 · 2 2

please note the statement made by Jesus about being born again was made to a Jew b4 the day He hung on a cross. What we refer to as being born again today is when the comforter comes and resides with us. Could nicodemas possibly have understood something that was not even available at the time of the conversation?? would Jesus have been trying to confuse him, I think not. The use of the term Born again while in the Spirit of conversion is a mis appropriation of scripture.

Is it any wonder people have problems with understanding scripture look at these answers. Baptising is after the cross, born again was to a jew b4 the cross. Then there is the scripture that says there is but one baptism.

However there is a point when a person accepts the comforter and their life changes immediately and if you have not experienced that then a wonderous thing is still available to you.

2006-10-22 02:43:12 · answer #2 · answered by icheeknows 5 · 0 1

Rev.14:1-6,7 Zion Redeemed Firstfruits of the Lamb are with the LAMB

Luke 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world
marry,and are given in marriage: Luke 20:35 But they which shall be
accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead,
neither marry, nor are given in marriage: Luke 20:36 Neither can they die
any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God,
being the children of the
resurrection.

1Pet.1:15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy
in all manner of conversation;1Pet.1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy;
for I am holy.1Pet.1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of
incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man
be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born
of the Spirit is spirit. John 17:1-16; Mark 13:27; Rev.3:21; Rom.5:5-8;
Rom.9:33; Rom:11:26; 1Pet.2:5-8; Heb.12:22-24; 1Cor.15:22-23-24-28,51-53;
only THE 144,000 ZION REDEEMED FIRSTFRUITS ARE FOR THE NEW HEAVEN AS ANGELS
[ Born again, anointed, chosen, elect, bread and wine partakers, martyrs ];
Rev.20:1-6,12,13
The Heavenly first resurrected [1Thes.4:15-17; John 6:39,40,44 ]; are with
him Rev.3:12; Heb.12:22-24; coming down out of heaven from God over the
earthly for the judgement day Heb.9:27 [ it is appointed unto man once to
die and after that the judgement[; 1Cor.15:22-28, 51-53[ As in Adam all
die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive ] John 3:16 and the world is
6,000 and Jesus reign is 1000 to all is perfect Rev.20:12,13; Rom.14:9-12;
2Cor.5:10; Philip 2:5,9-12; John 12:47,48 All must know the world of God.
Rev.21:1-5,9,10 [ Gal.4:26 the mother of us all with the Lamb of God saves
all possible for the new earth and then the final cleansing Rev.20:7-10;

2Pet.3:13; all is made new, Rev.22:14 the tree of life is back.
Isa.65:17; 66:1,22; Rev.2:7[ Paradise is back ]; Luke 23:43 [Paradise ];

2006-10-22 03:22:15 · answer #3 · answered by jeni 7 · 0 0

To be born again simply means to become alive in your spirit. When Adam and Eve sinned in the beginning, mans nature became sinful and our spirits were separated from GOD. Have you ever wondered why you don't have to teach a 2 year old to be selfish? Its in him or her to be selfish because of the sin nature that we inherited from our grand pappy Adam. However we do as parents have to teach our kids to be loving an caring towards people. Why you ask? because we are sinful at heart.
Being born again is when GOD cleans up our spirit by indwelling us with his very own presence (he is omni present) there by saving us from ourselves. This is done when we believe in what JESUS accomplished on the cross for us at Calvary and ask him to come into our lives and save us. JESUS is simply saying in this passage that your spirit must be renewed by the HOLY SPIRIT of GOD. When the wind blows you can feel it coming but you do not know from whence it came or where it is going.
When the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD indwells us and cleans us up from the inside out, as Christians we can sense and feel that he is there but we do not know how hes doing what hes doing.
~GOD BLESS YOU AND LEAD YOU INTO ALL TRUTH~

2006-10-22 02:58:41 · answer #4 · answered by wordman 3 · 0 0

the spirit will Go to those it choses yes that does sound wrong. Nhink it just means you can not see the spirit of God but you will feel it. if you are born again you will know but many who acept Jesus as saviour do not do it in true faith and are not born again of the spirit

2006-10-22 02:33:02 · answer #5 · answered by Sam's 6 · 0 0

Born again means realizing you are a spiritual being having a human experience and practicing spirituality daily- -see the 12 steps for example - So many don't have a clue, it's a shame

2006-10-22 04:23:14 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Jesus used the analogy of the wind to indicate that parts of the "new birth" experience are a mystery to us as far as how the Spirit does this miracle in us.
A born-again Christian is someone who has repented of their sins and turned to Christ for their salvation, and as a result has become part of God's family forever. All this takes place as God's Spirit works in our lives.

You see, by nature we aren't members of God's family, and we don't have any right to inherit eternal life. The reason is because of our sin. We have rebelled against God, and because of that, the Bible says, we are "separated from the life of God ... due to the hardening of (our) hearts" (Ephesians 4:18). No, you may not see yourself as a bad person (and you probably aren't)—but in God's eyes even one sin is enough to keep you out of heaven.

But Jesus Christ came to save us and to make us part of His family forever! He did this by dying for our sins on the cross and by conquering death through His resurrection. You see, as a human being you were born into a family—and nothing can ever change that. But when we come to Christ we are spiritually reborn into another family—the family of God. The Bible says to Christ's followers, "You have been born again ... through the living and enduring word of God" (1 Peter 1:23).

My prayer is that you too may be born again and become part of God's family. By a simple prayer of faith, tell God that you know you are a sinner, and you are sorry for your sins. Then ask Christ to come into your life and save you. When you do, God will come to live within you by His Spirit, and you will be born again.

2006-10-22 02:35:29 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

The way BORN AGAIN is taught in the church is just a FAD!
As you noted. Jesus said when we are Born Again, we are
just like the wind.
People think being in Spirit is just getting in the mood!
When we worship the Creator, we worship him with our spirit
in the spirit world.
2 Corinthians 12. Astral travel, third heaven.
"We are confident to be absent from the BODY, and present
with the LORD!" Apostle Paul.
Born Again is when we leave this physical world, and are
Born Again into the Spirit world we came from.

2006-10-22 02:35:18 · answer #8 · answered by zenbuddhamaster 4 · 0 2

Jesus means you sould b e baptized in the Name of the Father, of the son and of the spirit so ;that the sins you have committed while growing older to maturity will be taken away and be sure you will not sinned again inorder to ;enter the kingdom of heaven. read the bible very well and understand what it says

2006-10-22 02:35:06 · answer #9 · answered by Jesus M 7 · 0 0

First remember who it is that Jesus is speaking to. Keep reading John 3 it will explain further... It is about faith in the unseen... Ask God to make it clear to you and He will. Just keep reading. Read it over and over if necessary, you will get it. Also check out Hebrews 11:1

2006-10-22 02:41:58 · answer #10 · answered by Christine 1 · 1 0

The peace the world gives is conditional and very fragile the slightest infringement will break it. The peace Jesus gives is a permanent condition, it does not depend on man keeping certain conditions. 1) It is His peace, not something thrashed out between two parties. 2) Peace is given, not imposed. 3) Jesus is our peace, not a treaty written on a piece of paper. 4) Peace that the world gives, reconciles two parties. - Men. The peace Jesus gives, reconciles man to man and man to God.

2016-05-21 22:07:18 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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