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The act itself is neither vulgar in execution nor invasive into another’s wellbeing.

Could society’s denouncement and enforcement be considered an overarching philosophical stance to address selfishness of society in lieu of the self ?

2006-10-21 21:35:12 · 16 answers · asked by pax veritas 4 in Social Science Anthropology

ABRIDGED. Quasi-EXISTENTIALIST:
Ian/St..– Primacy lies in People’s interest over that of the individual wherein, The fundamental allure of life, hedonistic excesses and avarice precludes the capacity to altruism, exalted by capitalism epitomized in Western civilization, Self-seeking is natural to man that remains largely uncontested, rationalised on balance in nora2..– Social responsibility is a balancing scale of Rights within the Collective, whose Being would be contrary to the collective effort if Singleness, the sum attribution of Many, were forcibly unmade.

2006-10-25 16:20:01 · update #1

COMMUNITY and SELF: Individual’s effect on the collective held as:
T.Mac..– Selfishness neglects Others under fiduciary care; wherein attributions inflected in DaJud..– Distress from false culpability are ascriptions of the vulgar Act; and in RokaA..– Imposition is without consideration. But in ‘Shock’, lies the Truth.(true effect), with puritanical smili..– Taken Life regardless is without consideration and comparison.

2006-10-25 16:21:40 · update #2

TRANSCENDENTAL: God’s primacy and the Fates.
Sweet.. – In life and death, God transcends Platonism and empiricism; agent..– differs that God is transcendent through reason in love and respect; *jo*ke..– It simply is.

Community should neither be despondent nor power unto itself:
Ronin..– Demise of Self intertwines a psychosis whose public awareness infers defensible authority. Attenuation of irrationality/psychosis is expected by society;
Aende..– Inference of Johnson’s allegations and ensuing actions thereof, valued life at $12(1). Court rejected appeal gave impetus to fatalistic belief infused with depression culminating in self prophesied demise.(2), whereas simply in relief is
april..– Morals are constructs of the majority, whose beloved attempts proved 2 years hence to gleeful and jubilant parent, wherein quiet reflections of irresolute matters await resolution.

2006-10-25 16:29:39 · update #3

Of Transcendental Religion and of Philosophical discourse
Icycr..– The Act condones Public shaming. Preordained Life is reasonable thought and deed that transcends, whose Stewardship guided by biblical exegesis that Will and Self-determination are open to public scrutiny, and judged thereof without Logos and compassion.
Verni..– Attribution of spiritual falsehood in Christianity, that the Fates (Universe) transcend Will and Logos, in Consensus reinforced Reason that may vindicate illegitimacy of the Act. The ‘atheist/agnostic’ rationalises Life in Death; Life is otherwise self indulgence, Absurdism is simply discursive.

2006-10-25 16:48:08 · update #4

arul n– Allow Universal Conscience to determine Introspection of Self in familial units, of community at large, and of individualism’s solitude. Individualism reinforced in Positivism is a burden absolved or alleviated in collective congruence, to do otherwise is without Character. Cause and Effect attribution in primacy of Life over happenstance, to do otherwise is mundane and devoid of justification in equity.

2006-10-25 16:48:56 · update #5

DECISION
Personal bias would favour expression and thinking - starseed, arul or vernits G.

Better thought through (argued) answers in this order:

1. starseed -Observation of governing systems, clear and concise
2. arul n -although not clearly worded, expresses beginings of complex ideas
3. icycrissy -applied somewhat(effort)
3. Vernita G -descriptive postulates with potential; unfortunately elaborated (possibly the clearest signs thought on development on pertinent issues of anthropolohy/philosophy)
4. nora22000 -touches on a truism ? in passing
5. Old truth (1940's beleief) by Roka.

Mention: april showers (concordance of belief, practical example)

2006-10-28 08:13:49 · update #6

16 answers

Violence is destructive. Each person is an amalgam of investments by others. Destruction of self negates those investments and therefore the individual has no right to do so.

There is always a balance between individual rights and societal responsibilities. Suicide definitely repudiates social responsibility.

2006-10-22 01:30:51 · answer #1 · answered by nora22000 7 · 1 0

If you had a friend or family member and he/she is committing suicide, will you walk away or stop it?

If you saw a stranger standing at the edge of a cliff, would you at least stop by to say something. If you don't would you have a peaceful night?

If you were born with nothing and naked, what worse could happen to one to want to commit suicide?

Answer the above questions and you conscience will tell you if it is moral or immoral.

The moment we live selfishly for ouselves, our burden becomes rock heavy. Once we live to make this world a better place with whatever talents we have, our burden is not important to us anymore.

Character cannot be acquired in ease and quiet...and dying in the face of defeat sure does not say much about character.

I shall not go much into the religious aspects, but then is this life ours to bargain with? Being careful when we are having success and being reckless when in the dumps....we seem to be some form of trader. Our life is not an equity.

2006-10-24 09:46:10 · answer #2 · answered by arul n 2 · 1 0

I would also like to point out that the immoral or unethical argument can be applied to the people around the suicidist as well. They selfishly want that person to continue to suffer an existence worse than death (why else would suicide be so appealing?) so that they dont have to deal with the person's death.

Life in general is selfish because the primary drive human beings have is self-preservation. Our every breath, every meal, every hour of work we put in is ultimately for ourselves and to promote our own lives. Within these lives we might assist others or do truly altruistic acts, but the very foundation of human life relies on selfishness in order for us to go on living. This can even be said more so in Western civilization where the goal is always "more" and capitalism is the norm. Is suicide selfish? Perhaps, but in one way or another all acts we do are selfish.

2006-10-21 21:46:13 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

the way it is seen it is as something shameful done by someone. and the way people interpret the Bible also plays a major role on why it is unethical: because you used your own your mind and subconsciousness to take your life which society sees that hought to be taken by someone else in an accident or with the death penalty, but not as long as you planned it and executed it, then it becomes unethical. because it is seen as some wrong thinking and doing on your part and because you are given the chance to live but decide that it is not worth living or that you are depressed or did not think rational about your actions.plus they would rather see you suffer and be unhappy and depressed than to be dead because being alive is more important to them then what life is about or the pain you are being put through or how it affects you in the long run of wanting to die because of all the pain! maybe because people are narrow minded and that is what they have been taught through the interpretations of the BIble and because they see only their beliefs and values as well as the society's but do not consider why the individual took the action that he or she did.

2006-10-21 21:52:44 · answer #4 · answered by icycrissy27blue 5 · 2 0

Well, it is considered wrong religiously as it is seen as one's selfish desire to earn matrydom and go to heaven sooner--that's as far as I know for Christianity. For Buddhism it relates to the fundamental interpretation of our universe--it is not man's place to decide his own death, it's his fate of sorts.

Commonsensically, it isn't wrong if you had a reason for it.

I used to support the idea; however, I do have a religion and now I see a reason--religiously.

And, if you didn't have a religion, if you believed there was no god, then there is actually no reason for living. If you do live, it is for hedonistic reasons. Life can't be self-validatory system--see the idea of Absurdism.

Just my opinion on a very weighty matter.

2006-10-21 22:42:31 · answer #5 · answered by Vernita G 2 · 1 0

Life amoung other things are gifts from God. We have no right to take it. THis is the same reason why murder is wrong. As bad as your life is or maybe remeber that God gave you that gift because He loves you and would like you to treat it with respect

2006-10-22 01:23:59 · answer #6 · answered by agentfat2000 2 · 0 0

I think it stems from the fact that it's somewhat unnatural to want to take you own life and almost always indicates a mental illness. Although given it's prevalence, calling it unnatural is hard to defend.

But people probably look at it like "If that were me, I'd hope someone would stop me"

That's my guess.

2006-10-22 09:13:06 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Morals are the standards that the social majority sets.Personaly speaking,I found my 18 yr.old son right after he shot himself in the head.I was told by the e.r doctor "this is probably a mortal wound".He was wrong.2 yrs. later my son so regrets it.I am so grateful that he has lived to regret it.I once heard that behaviors are symptoms of unresolved pain!

2006-10-22 04:31:03 · answer #8 · answered by april showers 3 · 1 0

see i never gave it a thought either way really till the 19th when that guy johnson from death row killed himself in his cell and the only reason i considered it then is because i was workin when they brought him in to be "pronounced" and i am the one who undressed him and put his things into evidence and hes my age and i do believe he was innocent so now im like ((WWHHAATT_))))) if you dont know look it up on the net michael dewayne johnson on death row for capitol murder

2006-10-21 21:40:45 · answer #9 · answered by aengel69 3 · 0 0

We have no right to take even our own life as we are not that by whose wish we came into existence. Its the reserved right of God (Nature in case of atheist) by whom we all are generated...

2006-10-22 00:57:15 · answer #10 · answered by Sweet 19 1 · 0 0

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