mormons and jehovah witnesses false prophets?????

Question

well mormons,added on to the holy scriptures of the bible when at the end of the bible it says

''For i testify unto every man that hearith the words of the prophecy of this book,if any man shall add unto these things,God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book''

and then jehovahs witness belive there the 144,000 when it states clearly in the bible that they will consist if the 12 tribes of isreal.

Answer 1

I think they witness false prophets, but don't think they are going to go to hell because of that as long as they are good people.

Answer 2

So, you are saying that the Bible lies when it says that the great curtain covering the Most Holy of the Temple split open, at the moment of Christ's death, to expose for all to see that the Holy Spirit no longer resided in Israel?

You are saying that it lies in Revelations when it says that it was presented as "symbols" rather than literal events?

You are saying that Christians are not God's people, or New Israelites, from whom the 144,000 would be pulled?

People keep saying that literal Israelis who is being talked about, but one factor is being left out, that they would accept Christ as the Messiah and return to favor of God. They have not. Yes, some has said that they now accept his as a Prophet, but that is not the same, and it certainly does not include them all. Orthodox Jews still believe him to be a false prophet and Christians to be a false or pagan religion.

We are in the last days, with the generation living at the time the signs began to be fulfilled dying away quick. There's not a lot of time left for the Nation of Israel to convert to Christianity, as a whole. Right now, they are nothing more than any other country, with the same future as everyone else.

You may not like the JWs, but no other religion has achieved what they have in their dedication to God and Christ, without having some leader telling everyone what to believe. They have no single leader, everyone learns equally, men and women, adults and children, alike. And they have done it without an large or even small group breaking off to form their own religion.

Answer 3

To show the complete falsehood of Achtungs comment consider the following Watchtower article where it calls religions that wrongly predict the end of the world false prophets.

Awake! 1968 October 8 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the world' even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end did not come'. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? Missing from such people were God's truths and the evidence that He was using and guiding them."

How ironic that the Society condemns other religions in such manner when it spent many decades actively predicting wrong ‘end of the world’ dates that did not occur, such as 1914 being the year for the end of the world.

Watchtower 1894 July 15 “But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble.

Another example of Watchtower false prophesy, (based on the Watchtower definition given above) is that they said Abraham would be resurrected onto earth in 1925.

Answer 4

Interestingly, If a person read bible prophecy they would already know that those who are making false prophecy are actually are ones amid God's people at the end times. The 13th chapter of Ezekiel issues Jehovah's judgments "against the prophets that are visioning untruth and that are divining a lie." Saying further: "In the intimate group of my people..." Also Jehovah's servants would be blind and deaf to certain spiritual realities until the pouring out of holy spirit during the great tribulation. Joel and other prophets said he will clean his people and give them a new name, the name from God. Since "Christian" means annotated one and is not God's name then the cleaning of his people has not taken place yet.

Answer 5

Jehovah's Witnesses do not prophesy.

Despite the lying slander of their more deceitful critics, Jehovah's Witnesses have humbly taught that they are *NOT* infallible and *NOT* inspired by God; that's more than 125 years of unwavering eschewal of the definition of "prophet" insisted upon by this so-called "questioner" and other anti-Witness activists.

Jehovah's Witnesses apply the term "prophet" only in a very limited sense to themselves as a religion, not to individuals. The Scriptures indicate that whenever Jehovah purposes to execute judgment upon a people, he always makes arrangment for a 'prophet's work' as a warning. Their self-description as a "prophet" (in this limited sense) does not indicate special inspired knowledge or foreknowledge, but their willingness to perform Christ's assigned warning work in our day leading up to Armageddon.

What group is working harder than Jehovah's Witnesses to preach God's message globally (as Noah did before the Deluge)?

(Amos 3:7) For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants the prophets.

(2 Peter 2:5) Noah, a preacher of righteousness...

(Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.


Learn more at Jehovah's Witnesses' official website:
http://watchtower.org
http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/1999/7/15/article_02.htm

Answer 6

Yes but your line of thinking is a bit wrong. The book of revelation says not to add or take away from it, it was not written as part of the bible. They had false prophecy many times, the end of the USA if they did not make reparations to the LDS, people lived on the moon are just a few.

That is interpretation, not false JW prophecy. They do predict the end of the world every so often. Falsely.

Now Jesus predicted he would return in the lifetime of his followers in many of the gospels so I'm going to add him to my list.

Answer 7

The writer who wrote what you quoted, John the Revelator, wrote those words in his own manuscript. The Bible did not exist then. Many years later, scholars collected various writings (including John's) and put them into one book called the Bible. John words relate only to his own writing, not any of the other writings in the Bible. Also, the Bible itself refers to many missing writings, including those of prophets. So if they are ever found and inserted into the Bible, that would be "adding to" the Bible but still have no effect on John's writings or "adding" to the Book of Revelation. His words are many times taken out of context and thought to represent the entire Bible, because people don't bother learning the history of the Bible.

Answer 8

We shouldn't be surprises as we are told that in the last days men would depart from the truth and follow false teachers and false doctrines. We are warned in the Bible that if anyone presents to us a Gospel which is other than that of the Lord Jesus, let them be cursed and likewise for anyone who receives the same false Gospel. There is no substitute for good sound Bible study as it sharpens our discernment and allows us to immediately identify false teachers and doctrine. The 144,000 mentioned in Revelations are those who will be left behind during the tribulation to preach the Gospel. They are all men, unmarried and are 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel.

Answer 9

I cant talk for the Mormons.But I can as one of Jehovah's Witnesses clarify your misguided statement.
The twelve tribes mentioned in Revelation,Chapter 7 refer to spiritual Israel for several valid reasons.The listing does not match that of natural Israel at Numbers,Chapter 1.Also,Jerusalem's temple and priesthood and all the tribal records of natural Israel were permanently destroyed,lost forever,long before John had his vision in 96CE.But more important,John received his vision upon a background of the aforementioned developments from and after Pentecost 33CE.In the light of such events, John's vision of those standing on the heavenly Mount Zion with the Lamb(who natural Israel had rejected)revealed the number of this spiritual Israel of God to be 144,000 "bought from among mankind" - Rev.7-4,14:1,4
Jehovah's Witnesses can back up anything they preach from God's Holy Word.Because as Witnesses of Almighty God,Jehovah,it is our great privilege to have the truth of God's Holy Word and provide the nations with this wonderful accurate knowledge that can lead to everlasting salvation. - John17:3;Matt.24:14

Answer 10

Jehovah`s witness does not say that but when i was young i did have that problem too I was an Evangelist and i had an argument with my cousin about that ,well she kind of told me that the 144,000 was them the Jehovah`s witness but while talking to one of my uncle who is an elder, he told me that the 144000 are the chosen ones from the 12 tribe now with the Mormon i can`t tell you anything since i don`t know anybody that goes to that religion

Answer 11

Hey, I found the same scripture in Deuteronomy 4:2 ... I guess we'll have to tear out the rest of the Bible then ...