are all hunters really just poachers?

Question

hey i was watching this lion hunt on tv today and it didnt do it like any of you "hunters" after asking my last question to you folks i have discovered you so called hunters are just poachers. sitting up in a deer stand with doe urine scattered all around??...yup sounds like poaching...maybe if you roll around in mud to cover you scent and you use less modernized tools such as bow and arrow and track deer then MAYBE just MAYBE you could consider yourself a hunter, but if you sit in trees with guns tooting your grunter horns then you in my book are pitiful ..modern day "hunters" really just poachers

call yourselves what you want but if you do those things you are a poacher

Answer 1

i thought poaching was hunting on someone elses land ,, like you would be tresspassing if you were simply hiking without a gun.
are cattle ranchers poachers if they take a cow to slaughter and shoot it in the head with a 22?
what chance does the cow have?
yet, that cow would never be born to live without that rancher.

Answer 2

Did you see that it takes a few minutes for the lion's prey to suffocate - and they will start eating it before it is dead?

Primitive weapons do not make a clean kill (modern bow hunters use considerably powerful bows - compound bows - and the arrows are specialized for a faster kill) but still a bullet is the fastest and most humane way to kill an animal. So what is better - hunting with less modern equipment or humanely killing an animal. Oh there is the old method of driving the animals over a cliff to fall to their deaths - i suppose that would be better?

And yes we can get meat from a supermarket - but it didn't come from meat trees. After several months in a crowded feedlot being given grain with antibiotics and injected with steroid implants for growth thay are run up a chute and either electrocuted or have a bolt shot through their head.

And hunting in stands and using calls is as old as hunting. Ambush is a key part of a successful hunt. It is used in all hunter gather societies. Using scents is an old tradition as well - just now it is more commercially available. And a lot of us also spend a lot of time hiking as well. It is not like the deer just come running to be shot - you have to find them.

Finally there have been cases in areas where there is no hunting of animals being culled (a PC way of saying wholesale slaughtered) because of overpopulation, which not only leads to starvation and disease but also has a significant affect on the ecosystem - plants and trees being over grazed which affects every other animal in the habitat.

Poaching is just illegally killing an animal. Often done with very inhumane snares and traps as you seem to have a problem with modern weapons.

Answer 3

When you eat a steak did you roll around in the mud first then hunt the animal down with a spear? When you put on your favorite designer leather shoes did you stalk your game, kill it with a stick then skin and cure the hide, cut and sew it into shoes? The Lion hunted down it's prey with the tools it has available. So do modern hunters! Poachers hunt illegally. Hunters do not! Have you spent time in a state or federal park! Guess where the large majority of the money comes from to maintain these come from! Hunting license! A portion of every purchase a hunter makes for equipment goes straight to a fund for wildlife and parks. Hunters fund more wildlife prodjects then all anti-hunter organisations combined! I would much prefer to use modern means to take legal game then chance wounding an animal because some narrow minded non-hunter thought it was not fair to the animal. Not fair could be thought of as raising an animal just for slaughter. At least with hunting the animal has a fair chance to get away! I am a Hunter!!

Answer 4

I don't hunt but my BF does. He is not a poacher by and means.

This is what the dictionary defines as poaching:

To take or appropriate something unfairly or illegally.

There are those who poach and those who hunt. A hunter is one that will shoot an animal fairly and legally.

A poacher is one who takes an animal or fish illegally. See the difference?

If my BF hadn't gotten his license a few years ago we would have starved all winter. I am not about to go and pay what the stores want for meat that has been sitting in their coolers for lord only knows how long for the prices they want, when I can feed my family on what my BF either hunts or catches when we go fishing. Yes I fish and I do it legally.

People who ride around in their trucks taking pot shots at animals for the thrill of it is a poacher. Someone who sits and WAITS in a tree stand or blind is doing just that WAITING. If there happens to be a deer in view that is worth the shot then they will take it. For the past 4 yrs my BF has not gotten a deer but he has caught a mess of fish.

Hunting is used to control over population and the spread of disease such as bovine tuberulosis. The money the state receives from hunting licenses goes for wildlife management. Now if they outlawed hunting how is the control of overpopulation going to take place. who is going to pay for wildlife management, sorry but I already pay enough in taxes. Hunting is not murder. If someone goes out and shoots an animal for the heck of it and just leaves it that to me is considered murder. If you are hunting for the meat it is not murder. You have those that hunt for that trophy buck but they donate the meat to homeless shelters, does this mean the homeless don't get to eat if you had your way?

Unless you have ever shot a deer with either a bow and arrow or a gun you are way out of your league in calling hunters poachers.

I have done both, I just choose not to do it anymore because of a disability.

Answer 5

What are you some kind of tree hugging hippie. Hunting in any form is must for most areas. The Deer herds and other animals over populate and dessimate there food supplies. Hunting (in a responsable manner) is actually a benefit to the local populations( both human and animal). And you deffinately dont hunt. If you did youd know all the scents and calls in the world dont matter if you dont know what your doing. I do hunt (with a recurve bow) and you would also know that its possible to go years without getting a deer or whatever you hunt for. Every true hunter knows the feeling of empty tags at season end. So before you shoot your mouth off make sure your mind is loaded.

Answer 6

first of all poacing is the illegal means of taking wildlife.second hand me a shovel a ton of sticks and a knife i will dig a pit sharpen the sticks and jam them in the bottom of the pit ,then cover it up and run a deer in. or hand me a medeval bow and arrows and i will stalk a deer. but they will very slowly die and suffer. I WILL MAKE YOU WATCH EVERY AGONIZING LAST SECOND OF ITS LIFE.or you can hand me a 30-06 and it will die instantly in one shot. the choice is yours,but know this we are far from poachers and people like you should study more about it before opening your mouth.

FLA girl are you that ignorant and nieve to think that there is no longer a need to hunt. it might not be for your family but there are thousands of families or even more that depend on it for survival.yea the gov't will take care of overpopulation ...by taxes,and killing them theirselves. and you know what will happen the meat will most likely go in their freezers where it is not needed and the citizens may be forced to live worse than before. you damn animal rights activists dont see the whole picture. you just see the little tiny picture that someone brainwashed you into seeing.
many of you listed in here just a few things that is concedered poaching,but it is not everything. i live in Nj and when i first moved up here bear hunting was illegal for over 30 years.you know what those bears was doing,causing nothing but problems due to no fear of humans. so the first year i was here they allowed bear hunts,which helped. then the damn animal right assholes start bitching so they they didn't allow it the next year. then the bears started tearing up garbage killing pets and so on again. then people bitched aboutthat so last year they allowed it again. this year there was only 2 bear problems compared to the hundreds there usually is. so hunting has more benifits than you think. and personally i am tired of people trying to change laws that infringe on my rights. if you people don't like it then leave. oh wait there is no use hunters are everywhere in the world.

Answer 7

Brendana,WOW . I am a big game hunter here in Canada, East Coast,and have watched so called men on TV pat each other on the back and hugging each other after doing all the stuff you listed and more such as have some paid person feed an animal for weeks so they can climb a tree with a cannon or high power compond bow and blow the smiderens out of the unsuspecting creature.I have encountered many of them here with their guides.Lol.lol

Answer 8

If he wrote that throughout the time of a e book it incredibly is termed confessing to theft. which ability he's an anti hunter and an fool. he's likewise a poacher by way of fact he maximum probable does not have a valid searching license, by way of fact of this he does not tag the sport that he steals. And as Bob stated, getting between a hunter and his legally taken game is a undesirable theory, we are able to get particularly ticked on the antics of anti's and it is over the coolest. additionally as Bob stated, hiding game from a hunter isn't that straightforward. monitoring is something that many deer hunters are proficient in, and hiding a blood path and drag marks in simple terms isn't basic, extremely for somebody with an I.Q. point as low as this author's.

Answer 9

I can honestly say, I am not one.
I don't use any urine.
I do not sit in a tree.
I've never had a grunter horn.
I have never rubbed two antlers together.
I always track my deer.
I always give them a running chance or enough time to get away.
As a matter of fact, when I shot my first deer, I had my make-up on, my hairspray, and my perfume.
There's no way you would get me roll around in mud.
I do have a bow and arrow, but prefer a gun for distance.

Answer 10

You know I used to think the same way that you do, that is until I married a hunter. Now I have learned a thing or two about game animals and about the valid reasons for hunting.

When you have an area that is over populated with a certain species of animal, such as deer, the land cannot support a vast number of these animals. They over graze the land and disease runs rampant in this over populated area. Now, while most hunters will admit that they do it for the enjoyment of that "trophy kill" , they will also tell you that in order to keep the population undercontrol and to keep the number of diseases in this species down, it is necessary to "weed out" the older, more seasoned animals. A female deer, for example, can have a fawn once a year, and sometimes more than one at a time. Considering the number of does of reproducing age in a given area, the population of deer in that given area can double or even triple. There is not always enough food to go around for these animals. Therefore for the betterment of the species, it is necessary to thin out the species.

Now, in referrence to animals such as bobcats and coyotes, these animals are known to attack and kill smaller animals, such as newborn cattle, deer fawns, and even domestic animals such as dogs or cats. They are known predators, and killing them is also a form of population contol.

As cruel as it may sound to kill squirrels for fun, do you realize how quickly they breed?? A female squirrel breeds every 10 weeks, and can have up to 8-10 babies at a time. I don't know where you live, but trust me, where we live we are in abundance of squirrels. If these animals are not thinned out, we would be over run with them. Squirrels can carry rabies, just like a racoon or a skunk. I don't know about you, but I would rather a hunter have a little fun killing them, than risk the spread of this deadly disease.

Like I said, I once felt the same way you do, however I was willing to listen to what my husband and his hunting friends were trying to teach me. I also took the time to read some of the articles in the hunting magazines that my husband gets.

As far as leaving them to rot, well what would you expect someone to do with a dead coyote or bobcat? Give it a proper buriel?

Instead of being so against hunters, consider that more animals are killed by the spread of humans into their habitats, than by hunters.

Answer 11

Hunters are not poachers and poachers are not hunters. Sitting in a deer stand/blind is not hunting...it's waiting. You wait for you prey to come into view/range and then plug away. Personally, I hunt. I track my prey whether it's big game or fowl (I do hunt with a dog when hunting birds) and give them a sporting chance before harvest. I also eat what I kill, I don't hunt for trophies.