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2006-10-20 13:13:09 · 11 answers · asked by Southern Apostolic 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I don't need a fancy way. I will flat out say it. Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh. There is no trinity in scripture. Nobody has ever shown it to me, and I have tried to find it. All I get is a bunch of metaphors, and told it is a mystery that we cannot understand.

2006-10-20 13:34:31 · update #1

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no, accepting the trinity means you're in a cult.

2006-10-20 13:18:10 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 4

Being in a cult implies that you are placing your faith not in any Scriptural idea but that of a person.

Denying the trinity is just a fancy way of saying "I dont believe Jesus was the Son of God or God the Son." It is all about denying the deity of Christ which is who Jesus really was.

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. -John 1:1-2

2006-10-20 20:27:52 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I suppose that would depend on your definition of a "cult"; also on why you are denying the trinity?

Might it be that you deny it because you don't understand it?

Might it be that you deny it because your leaders have told you it isn't so?

If you are not a trinitarian, are you a binitarin?

If you do not believe that Jesus is fully God and fully Man, then it is very likely you do not consider Him as Saviour and, hopefully, Lord. Because His Deity and His Humanity are essential ingredients of His being the Saviour from sin.

2006-10-20 20:19:43 · answer #3 · answered by kent chatham 5 · 1 0

i suggest you research the Trinity. the early Christians did not believe in the trinity it was not brought into be being a religious tradition until the third century when the roman empire and Christianity merged to become the religious political power at the time. i am a christian and have never believed in the Trinity. Jesus told his followers that no one knows the time of the end expect for the father, and he is greater then i am. If Jesus was god Jesus was lying to his followers when he made that statement. If he was lying then the whole bible could be considered a lie. I believe the bible does not lie but mans interpretation of it does. the trinity has no basis to those who study the bible in an honest and truthful manor

2006-10-20 20:20:15 · answer #4 · answered by redsyoungstud 3 · 0 3

No. If you do not believe in the Trinity it means you have done your Bible reading properly. Jesus didnt advocate or believe in a trinity. The word "trinity" does not appear anywhere in the Bible. True Christians would do well not to believe it as well.

2006-10-21 08:16:51 · answer #5 · answered by Joy 2 · 0 0

Of course not, because there is no such a thing as the Trinity, this is the biggest lie Satan uses to keep people from knowing the one and only True God.

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36) How do these words confirm that Jesus is not Almighty God?

Jesus says that the Father knows more than the Son does. If Jesus were part of Almighty God, however, he would know the same facts as his Father. So, then, the Son and the Father cannot be equal. Yet, some will say: ‘Jesus had two natures. Here he speaks as a man.’ But even if that were so, what about the holy spirit? If it is part of the same God as the Father, why does Jesus not say that it knows what the Father knows?

1st of all Jesus said: He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice. Joh 6:56, 57.

Jesus’ being called the “only-begotten Son” (Joh 1:14; 3:16, 18) does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not God’s sons, for they are called sons as well. (Ge 6:2, 4; Job 1:6) However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of his Father, the firstborn Son was unique, different from all others of God’s sons, all of whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn Son. So “the Word” was Jehovah’s “only-begotten Son” in a particular sense,

Jesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] . . . gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3;


Rev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, why did God have to give the revelation to Jesus, if he is God? .

Does the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty? Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)

John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”

1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven.

Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh. Sorry but he was not.

The Scriptures make it clear that Jesus was entirely human from his birth until his death. John did not say that the Word was merely clothed with flesh. He “became flesh” and was not part flesh and part God. If Jesus had been human and divine at the same time, it could not have been said that he had been “made a little lower than angels.” Hebrews 2:9; Psalm 8:4, 5.

If Jesus had been both God and man when on the earth, why did he repeatedly pray to Jehovah? Paul wrote: “In the days of his flesh Christ offered up supplications and also petitions to the One who was able to save him out of death, with strong outcries and tears, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear.” Hebrews 5:7.

That Jesus was not partly a spirit when on the earth is proved by Peter’s statement that Christ was “put to death in the flesh, but, made alive in the spirit.” (1 Peter 3:18) Only because Jesus was wholly human could he have experienced what imperfect people experience and thus become a sympathetic high priest. Wrote Paul: “We have as high priest, not one who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who has been tested in all respects like ourselves, but without sin.”, Hebrews 4:15.

As “the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world,” Jesus “gave himself a corresponding ransom for all.” (John 1:29; 1 Timothy 2:6) In that way, Jesus bought back exactly what Adam had lost, perfect, eternal human life. Since God’s justice required ‘soul for soul,’ Jesus thus had to be what Adam was originally, a perfect human, not a God-man.

2006-10-20 21:52:59 · answer #6 · answered by BJ 7 · 1 1

I know that Apostolic Churches are oneness, and I disagree, but I don't think that makes them a cult. They still agree with the rest of us about Salvation, Sanctification, and The Baptism in The Holy Spirit. They are our brothers, and we must remember that.

2006-10-20 20:28:19 · answer #7 · answered by Minister 4 · 0 0

It is not a cult. In Acts 5:3,4, it states in verse 3 that Ananias lied to the Holy Spirit and then verse 4 that he had lied to God; thus God and the Holy Spirit are one and the same. Jesus and God are one and the same; therefore Jesus, God and the Holy Spirit are one and the same. Hope this helps.

2006-10-20 20:55:25 · answer #8 · answered by Birdbrain 4 · 2 2

excuse me?!!! Moses, Jesus and Muhammed never said God was a trinity.

i think accepting the trinity means you are in a cult.

2006-10-20 20:46:43 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

its part of it also having a particular eshcatalogical senario based on fear and rejection
but basicaly......
he who has the son has life he who does not have the son does not have life..

2006-10-20 20:19:21 · answer #10 · answered by proscunio 3 · 0 0

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