I got into a discussion with a coworker today. We were listening to the radio and that song Ridin Dirty came on, a few of us started discussing how songs like that are catchy but stupid and how the hip hop culture in the last ten years has offered nothing, outside of artists like Talib Kweli and Atmosphere, of any substance, besides maybe some good beats. That led to discussing gang mentality, how kids in our neighborhood think graffiti and drive by's and treating women like dirt makes them "hard", and how ghetto culture no matter who follows it, white, black, hispanic, asian, could be attributed to raising the crime rate. And how if these kids spent more time on things that matter like school, jobs, then our crime rate would decrease, people wouldn't have kids they couldn't afford to take care of, welfare, etc. This girl chimes in and says we're racist, that ghetto culture is an integral part of Blacks and their history. I said I dont care what color you are. Racist or no??
2006-10-20 13:08:59 · 42 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Immigration
Not racist, realist. Usually when a person says you are racist like that, they have no comeback and know what you are saying is true.
2006-10-20 13:10:48 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 1⤋
Definitely not racist. The bottom line is that the "ghetto" culture is nothing but negative and it does lead to higher crime rates. The girl's argument that the ghetto culture is an integral part of Black culture is wrong. Naziism was a part of Germany's culture in the 40's, but does that make it OK? Of course not. The ghetto culture itself promotes discrimination, use of weapons, vandalization, and other actions that have proven detrimental to society.
2006-10-20 13:15:04 · answer #2 · answered by ilmaas44 3 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Well she's the one stereotyping the black race as part of the ghetto culture!! Not you! Ghetto's and hoods are filled with all races. About the argument about concerning the human growing up inside of the ghetto and why they dont work as hard to make things better that's a whole other issue. People are a product of their environments. They do what they see. Nature and nurture come into effect in the development of a child and future adult. To prove my point here is an article on feral children.Feral children, also known as wild children or wolf children, are children who've grown up with minimal human contact, or even none at all. They may have been raised by animals (often wolves) or somehow survived on their own. In some cases, children are confined and denied normal social interaction with other people. These children behave like the animals that raise them and after a certain age, most agree it's 4, they are unable to become more like "normal" people. They never learn to speak or even eat properly with utensils. People are products of the environments they live in and i'm sick of people griping about it instead of trying to change it. If you don't like the people coming out of the hood, go in and try to change the environment for kids growing up there. Open a non-profit organization there. Dance class, boxing class, music classes or whatever you think you could teach well enough to try and offer it free to them. As for the graffiti, I personally think it's beautiful. I think it's modern art.
2006-10-20 13:25:04 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋
Great question.
The ghetto and the hood is what they make it. I know a few blacks and i know white. There are to distinct personalities regardless of where they are raised. White people, we tend to believe that if you work hard, you can make something of yourself. Blacks tend to believe that everyone is out to get them and you have to "survive"
While both may be correct, one obviously has a positive point of view and a negative one.
As for the rap artists, they are just tapping in to the emotions of those who think like they write. Some of them actually have a message to their song, but songs like "ridin dirt" and others just discriminates women.
It's not being racist, it's having a point of view. You actually see the problem and are questioning it. Good for you!!!
2006-10-20 13:18:43 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
How silly.
I don't understand why anyone would think "ghetto" culture is an integral part of themselves. That's like saying that "redneck"/"white trash" culture is an integral part of all whites history and if you don't like it your racist.
Come on! I am not a redneck and my black friends are not ghetto and none of us want to be these things.
Continuing to perpetuate mentalities that put your own people at a huge financial disadvantage while blaming others is stupid, not racist.
I don't care if you are a redneck or ghetto, learn to speak the language of business, get an education and quit breaking the law and you have a shot at the American dream.
2006-10-20 13:16:06 · answer #5 · answered by Gem 7 · 6⤊ 1⤋
The girl who said that ghetto culture is integral to the Black experience is just as racist as she claims you to be. Both my chldren (who are adults now) are Black, and their mother currently lives in terrible conditions in a very "ghetto" hood in Rialto, CA. And yet, because of her great intelligence, she's never felt the need to be "ghetto" in her lifestyle. She raised two wonderfully intelligent adults who are contributing in a positive manner to society. Unfortunately, she's surrounded by a great many poor folks, mostly on welfare or SSI. And many of these people are in that position because they either couldn't or wouldn't maintain any form of gainful employment, either due to drug or alchohol abuse or simply poor job performance skills, as well as poor interpersonal skills.
I do not feel that this culture is an integral part of the Black experience. I have been raised in Black majority schools and neighborhoods, and some of the Black folks I know are ghetto, and some are not.
What you're really speaking of is the stratification of culture, no matter it's ethnic background. We see the same "ghetto-ness" in white culture, Latin culture, Native American culture, etc. It comes not from one's race, but from one's willingness to forgo acting in an intelligent manner, either out of fear of reprisals, a need to belong, or just plain ignorance. Peer pressure is a powerful thing to a person who has never been taught any form of leadership skills.
2006-10-20 13:22:17 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
Wonder why millions of white kids love rap and the hip hop culture.Did their mamas not tell them they are white and should just listen to white music?The entire conversation you had "at work" was race based .If you think all black people are gangsters,hoods and do drugs,then you are a racists.Music doesn't have a color,its simply music.We listen we dance we like music.
I like all different types of music.A little of this and that.I
listen to classical,R & B,old school,country,Ozzie Osborn,and Kayne West. It never turned me into a drug user or a hood rat.I'm a grown woman,Ive been married to the same man for 35 years.I'm a college graduate with
my own business.And our daughter is 32 and a college graduate with her own consulting firm and she still like Metallic.So its not music its the people them selves.Music doesn't make you a criminal,you make yourself a criminal.
2006-10-20 14:24:40 · answer #7 · answered by Yakuza 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
It will all way be welfare because there or not enought jobs let me explane let's say new york ok fifty million people live in New york .or there fifty million jobs there? Know most of us or poor and the govenment have program's to help people in need they or not poor by choice, some of us were born into a poor family this is something we can not help it's good to have program to help people and people should not be a shame of this. because we or just a paycheck away from being homeless now the kids parent should talk to there kids about the music they listen to. and again it's really up to the child because the parent can only do so much Have you every heard a kids tell there parent this is my life it's only so much a parent can do. just to guide there child the right way in life.
2006-10-20 13:23:18 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
No, it's not racist. You'r talking about a culture, a group of people, so it's not racist. If i say Al Queda is stupid, i'm not racist. I only like the Hip-Hop clothing style and some of their songs, but i dont like their dirty way of living.
2006-10-20 13:14:03 · answer #9 · answered by AlvaDaGansta 4 · 6⤊ 1⤋
Barry White's music contributed to many a conception. Last I checked his music wasn't considered "ghetto". Would you disagree? And when does music have to have any type of substance or point??!! It's called entertainment for a reason! Oh yeah, I almost forgot, why is this in the immigration forum again??!!
2006-10-20 14:42:40 · answer #10 · answered by SittinPretty! 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
No, the girl that chimed in at the last was wrong and perhaps trying to come off as more pious than the rest of you. It's good of you to consider it..I wonder about things like this all the time. But I really don't believe it is racist, if you understand the pitfalls of a lifestyle they submit to.
2006-10-20 13:11:33 · answer #11 · answered by merlin_steele 6 · 6⤊ 1⤋