Should you believe in the Trinity?

Question

It is written, "Hear, O Israel: The Lord thy God is one Lord." Deuteronomy 6:4

A 3 person god was not the God of the Israelites nor was a 3 person being the God of Jesus Christ. Neither the Jews and Jesus, knew nothing about serving a 3 person God. The Israelite God was a one God. Jesus is an Israelite, also served a one God, his father. YAHWEH identifies Himself in singular person terminology and as the Father of His Chosen People. Christianity as the true heir of Judaism and as a truly monotheistic belief.

I think, There are "Unlimitled" definitions of God because God is not just 3, God is "innumerable."

Answer 1

A PROTESTANT publication states: “The word Trinity is not found in the Bible . . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century.” (The Illustrated Bible Dictionary) And a Catholic authority says that the Trinity “is not . . . directly and immediately [the] word of God.”—New Catholic Encyclopedia.

The Catholic Encyclopedia also comments: “In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together. The word τρίας [tri′as] (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch about A. D. 180. . . . Shortly afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian.”

The Encyclopedia of Religion admits: “Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity.” And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: “The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the O[ld] T[estament].”

Similarly, in his book The Triune God, Jesuit Edmund Fortman admits: “The Old Testament . . . tells us nothing explicitly or by necessary implication of a Triune God who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. . . . There is no evidence that any sacred writer even suspected the existence of a Trinity within the Godhead. . . . Even to see in [the “Old Testament”] suggestions or foreshadowings or ‘veiled signs’ of the trinity of persons, is to go beyond the words and intent of the sacred writers.”

An examination of the Hebrew Scriptures themselves will bear out these comments. Thus, there is no clear teaching of a Trinity in the first 39 books of the Bible that make up the true canon of the inspired Hebrew Scriptures.

Jesuit Fortman states: “The New Testament writers . . . give us no formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity, no explicit teaching that in one God there are three co-equal divine persons. . . . Nowhere do we find any trinitarian doctrine of three distinct subjects of divine life and activity in the same Godhead.”

The New Encyclopædia Britannica observes: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament.”

Bernhard Lohse says in A Short History of Christian Doctrine: “As far as the New Testament is concerned, one does not find in it an actual doctrine of the Trinity.”

The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology similarly states: “The N[ew] T[estament] does not contain the developed doctrine of the Trinity. ‘The Bible lacks the express declaration that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are of equal essence,’ said Protestant theologian Karl Barth.”

Yale University professor E. Washburn Hopkins affirmed: “To Jesus and Paul the doctrine of the trinity was apparently unknown; . . . they say nothing about it.”—Origin and Evolution of Religion.

Historian Arthur Weigall notes: “Jesus Christ never mentioned such a phenomenon, and nowhere in the New Testament does the word ‘Trinity’ appear. The idea was only adopted by the Church three hundred years after the death of our Lord.”—The Paganism in Our Christianity.

Thus, neither the 39 books of the Hebrew Scriptures nor the canon of 27 inspired books of the Christian Greek Scriptures provide any clear teaching of the Trinity.

According to the Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”—(Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.

John L. McKenzie, S.J., in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”—(New York, 1965), p. 899.

To Jewish religious leaders of the first century, Jesus said: “For the sake of your tradition, you have made void the word of God. You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: ‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’ ” (Matthew 15:6-9, Revised Standard Version.)

Answer 2

Deuteronomy 6:4 was talking about him being the only god that they should serve, instead of Baal, or Allah. Jesus was God the Son, God is God the Father, and the Holy Spirit is God the Holy Ghost. A good example of this is Mark 1: 9-11. The Israelites served God who is 3 in 1. It's complicated, but you've got to think through it. I don't know what Yahweh means, exactly, but I do know that at the crucifixion, God sent Jesus to the cross, Jesus died and rose again, and the Holy Spirit indwelled the believers. So, that's what I think.

Answer 3

There is no such thing as the Trinity, This is largest lie that Satan uses to keep people from knowing who the True God is, if he can do this, he's got you.

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36) How do these words confirm that Jesus is not Almighty God?

Jesus says that the Father knows more than the Son does. If Jesus were part of Almighty God, however, he would know the same facts as his Father. So, then, the Son and the Father cannot be equal. Yet, some will say: ‘Jesus had two natures. Here he speaks as a man.’ But even if that were so, what about the holy spirit? If it is part of the same God as the Father, why does Jesus not say that it knows what the Father knows?

1st of all Jesus said: He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice. Joh 6:56, 57.

Jesus’ being called the “only-begotten Son” (Joh 1:14; 3:16, 18) does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not God’s sons, for they are called sons as well. (Ge 6:2, 4; Job 1:6) However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of his Father, the firstborn Son was unique, different from all others of God’s sons, all of whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn Son. So “the Word” was Jehovah’s “only-begotten Son” in a particular sense,

Jesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] . . . gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3;


Rev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, why did God have to give the revelation to Jesus, if he is God? .

Does the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty? Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)

John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”

1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven.

A person who is really seeking to know the truth about God is not going to search the Bible hoping to find a text that he can construe as fitting what he already believes. He wants to know what God’s Word itself says. He may find some texts that he feels can be read in more than one way, but when these are compared with other Biblical statements on the same subject their meaning will become clear. It should be noted at the outset that most of the texts used as “proof” of the Trinity actually mention only two persons, not three; so even if the Trinitarian explanation of the texts were correct, these would not prove that the Bible teaches the Trinity.

Answer 4

According to the Bible, God is not innumerable. He is ONE. Deut. 6:4 says: "Jehovah our God is ONE Jehovah."

You are correct when you say that there is no such thing as a 3rd-person god. For that matter, the Bible says nothing of a 2nd-person God. And terms such as "God the Son" and "God the Holy Spirit" are found nowhere in the Bible. They were made up by clergymen who had a warped perception of who God is.

If God were made up of three co-equal, co-eternal persons, why didn't Moses, Noah, David or other faithful men of God mention him in that fashion? The reason is that they did not believe God to be a trinity. It was completely unknown to them.

Some people will try and make it appear that God is a trinity. At times, they have pointed to Gen. 1:26, where Jehovah said: "Let us make man in our image." However, do you see anything in that verse that even remotely implies that one part of God was speaking to two other co-equal, co-eternal parts of the same God? I don't see it. Do you?

True Christians do not believe in the trinity. It's a lie.

Answer 5

Deuteronomy 6:4 is refering to worshiping other God's. It says Jehova is the only God. Put away these false god's and worship the creator!

Now as for the Trinity:

In the KJV where God is mentioned it means:

elohiym {el-o-heem'}
Meaning: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive - singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God

Where Lord is mentioned it means:

Yehovah {yeh-ho-vaw'}
Meaning: Jehovah = "the existing One" 1) the proper name of the one true God

I believe that Yeshua is God, but not God the Father.

Here is one of many examples.

Exodus 3:14 4 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Above is where God tells Moses to tell God's people who sent him. God tells Moses his name is I AM.

John 18:6 6 As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.

In this verse Yeshua told them I AM, he is inserted in english but left out in Greek, and they fell to the ground in praise.

Yeshua made many I AM statements in the New Testament. Here is a website that digs further into the subject.

http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-i-am.htm

If you belive what Yeshua said in Mark 12 then what about Yeshua's quotes in John 10 and 14?

John 10:30 30 I and my Father are one.

John 14:11 11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

Answer 6

http://www.apostolic-voice.org/tracts/onegod.htm

Acts 2:38

John 14:11
Believe me that ( I AM in the Father,) and the (FATHER in ME); or else believe me for the very works' sake

John 14:7
IF YE had known ME, YE should have known my Father also; and from henceforth Ye know him, and have SEEN HIM

1 John 5:7
For there are THREE that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these Three are One

1 John 5:8
And there are Three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these Three are One.



1 Corinthinas 12:10
To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another descerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues

Answer 7

Yes One God in 3 parts WE are commanded to baptize in all three Matt 28:19 also 1 John 5:6-7
what church are you??

Answer 8

there is One GOD
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

there is NO trinity

John 4:24 God is a Spirit:

Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

1Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Answer 9

All it is is.... 1. God, king of kings, lord of lords, 2. Jesus, the messiah, the son of God, God body on earth. 3. The holy spirit, the one who comforts us, and make us feel safe and at peace... together they are all one.

Answer 10

Amen. Trinity forever! There is only one God, and Jesus is his only son. He and the father are one. Before Abraham was, Jesus is