It's Crap. Dianetics is BS. How can you get rid of the reactive mind? That's like saying that they are taking a piece of your brain out of you so you can forget about the bad, stupid, ugly things you've done. Why would you want to forget when, where, and how you did something wrong if you learn something from it? i.e. learned a lesson, learned right from wrong because of the effect of your cause that you yourself made? Basically L. Ron Hubbard is saying you can simply forget about all the bad things you did and start fresh, and make the same mistakes over and over again because your religion tells you that you are freed if you stick to the "Step by Step" process of cleansing yourself of your "engrams".
And isn't "auditing" the very thing psychology is? I mean, when you go see a psychologist or therapist regarding your problems, you talk about them right? This guy is a freakin Science Fiction Author for god sakes, not a spiritual leader. HOLD ON, I HAVE TO POST AN ADD ON.
2006-10-20 10:25:28 · 12 answers · asked by Tracey 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
And don't even get me started on Tom Cruise. He is the worst thing that could have happened to himself. Talk about being so blinded by his own teachings that he completely makes a fool of himself, a perfect example of my point. When he went on Good Morning America and slandered Brooke Shields for taking a prescription for her Post Partum Depression... What happened? Everyone gave him crap for doing it, and lets be honest. It was freakin RUDE. How dare he blast someone else's problems on national television to glorify his religion and belief system? If his damn religion is so great, then why did L Ron Hubbard's wife try to steel documents that could be damaging to the religion from the US Government? Why were all or most of the highest Scientologists of the church sent to jail for infiltration of the IRS?
2006-10-20 10:25:48 · update #1
I believe, in my heart, that SCIENTOLOGY IS A JOKE. Yes all that stuff that psychologists did in the past was really bad. Don't make a religion about it, it's our history, and we aren't proud of it. There will never be a world without crazy, mean, horrible, murderous, psychotic, emotionally unbalanced people, and miss Mary Sue Hubbard and her affiliates who were part of the "Snow White Project" are a perfect example of that. The belief systems of the scientology church are basically to relieve these symptoms and make the world a better place, one person at a time. PALEASE.... We don't need saving, and just because a survey that scientology concocted says that a person is a certain way, doesn't mean we should pay for you Dianetic classes, GEEZ LOUISE!
Thank god (or whoever it is that put us on this great earth), that we were given free will. Could you imagine if we were forced to believe this crap?
2006-10-20 10:26:51 · update #2
And if "THE OUTSIDER" reads this, this portion of the opinionated question is to you....Please don't feel sorry for us we don't need your pity, trust us, we can decide for ourselfs what's BS and what isn't, that is why you get bad press, not because we are ignorant people, It's because we have common sense enough to know that aliens didn't come to the earth 75 million years ago to blow up other aliens around valcano's.... It's cool to have your own opinion, but don't bring or compare other religions to your ludacris one. Thanks.
Oh BTW.
Tom Cruise is your leader now, good luck with that, LOL
Oh and heres the question....
HOW MANY OF YOU AGREE WITH ME?
2006-10-20 10:28:10 · update #3
PS, This all arised because a person posted something on here that compared Buddhism to Scientology. I was raised a buddhist, and was insulted by this guy and his justifications for scientology through comparisson, this is not me slandering, this is me voicing my own personal opinions about what I've learned through reading and also visiting a scientology museum. NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE, Don't forget freedom of speech.
2006-10-20 10:31:52 · update #4
I AGREE!!!
This is what Scientologists ACTUALLY believe:
Xenu was an alien ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy" who, 75 million years ago, brought billions of people to Earth in spacecrafts resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls then clustered together and stuck to the bodies of the living. The alien souls continue to do this today, causing a variety of physical ill-effects in modern-day humans. L. Ron Hubbard (a science-fiction writer and the creator of Scientology) called these clustered spirits "Body Thetans," and the advanced levels in Scientology place considerable emphasis on isolating them and neutralizing their ill effects.
To rid ourselves of "Body Thetans", we have to go through "auditing" with a member of the “church” who uses an "e-meter" to measure our “reactive mind” in order to clear our mind of “engrams” (past negative experiences stored in our unconscious mind) so that we can become “clear”...... and we have to pay lots and lots and lots of money to take courses on Scientology to advance to higher “levels” in the “church”. The “church” has also taken a very hostile stance towards psychiatry and psychiatric drugs irrespective of the fact that some people require medication to remain adequately functional in everyday life and has been known to withhold prescription pharmaceuticals from member (with deadly results).
Scientology is undeniably a cult.
Every cult can be defined as a group having all of the following five characteristics:
1. It uses psychological coercion to recruit, indoctrinate and retain its members
2. It forms an elitist totalitarian society.
3. Its founder leader is self-appointed, dogmatic, messianic, not accountable and has charisma.
4. It believes 'the end justifies the means' in order to solicit funds & recruit people.
5. Its wealth does not benefit its members or society.
Are Cults Harmful?
To remain within the strict mental and social confines of a cult for even a short time can have the following disastrous effects:
Loss of choice and free will. Diminished intellectual ability, vocabulary and sense of humor. Reduced use of irony, abstractions and metaphors. Reduced capacity to form flexible and intimate relationships. Poor judgment. Physical deterioration. Malnutrition. Hallucinations, panic, dissociation, guilt, identity diffusion and paranoia. Neurotic, psychotic or suicidal tendencies.
2006-10-21 10:53:43 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Congradulations. Youve figured out that Scientology is a scam. But was the ranting really necessary?? And, since youve made the leap of understanding that this is a crap religion, can you make the same assumption about ALL RELIGION?? Its all the same...
L. Ron Hubbard is quoted as saying, five years prior to the start of Dianetics and Scientology, "Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If Im going to get rich, I need to invent a new religion." He did just that...
2006-10-20 10:31:44 · answer #2 · answered by YDoncha_Blowme 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
And an AMEN to you sister. You have to remember your mistakes to learn from them and grow as a person. And how the heck a MAN could even think he could understand what a woman's body goes through during pregnancy, and child-birth, and especially AFTER oh- please give me a friggin break.
And yeah you gotta be nuts to follow a science fiction author as a spiritual leader
2006-10-20 10:36:57 · answer #3 · answered by creeklops 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Well whose aspect is the Cruiser going to soak up the Armageddon of bullshit disguised as technology fiction.Which The-tan goes to be the Big Kahuna as soon as the smoke and the filth clears. I imply what idiot places cash within the wallet of charlatans and extra except are those fools completely satisfied their greenbacks spent on the duplex and at the blue ray dvd and the goods conscious that their shrinking earnings within the land of the unfastened is purchasing this crap? In Europe specially in Germany this garbage is unlawful. A send of fools.
2016-09-01 00:06:10 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You're sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo RIGHT! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH FOR THINKING SO!!!!!!!!! Finally someone agrees with me! Man, I'm all the way with you girl! I HATE Scientology and I HATE TOM CRUISE with my guts! They're bunch of bull crap worse than Gorge Bush!
2006-10-20 10:31:53 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Amen
2006-10-21 15:01:37 · answer #6 · answered by Shannie G 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I don't think anyone but a Scientologist is going to disagree with you.
And I'm not one.
2006-10-20 10:29:55 · answer #7 · answered by angk 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Erica
Sorry I didn't mean to offend.
But I don't believe in Aliens and honestly many f the principles of Scientology are very similar to Buddhism. In this site I read about Buddhism believes and are very similar to Scientology.
http://www.budsas.org/ebud/ebdha030.htm
1. The way of Inquiry. (just like in Scientology)
2. The Four Noble Truths.
The main Teaching of the Buddha focuses not on philosophical speculations about a Creator God or the origin of the universe, nor on a heaven world ever after. The Teaching, instead, is centred on the down-to- earth reality of human suffering and the urgent need to find lasting relief from all forms of discontent. (just like in Scientology In Scientology we are neither very concerned about deities and we are more concerned with the improvement of man.).
A. That all forms of being, human and otherwise, are afflicted with suffering. (Agree...)
B. That the cause of this suffering is Craving, born of the illusion of a soul. (Highly disagree man is a Soul in possesion of a body.)
C. That this suffering has a lasting end in the Experience of Enlightenment (Nibbana) which is the complete letting go of the illusion of soul and all consequent desire and aversion. (I highly disagree, to be happy you gotta get involved with life not deny your desires.)
D. That this peaceful and blissful Enlightenment is achieved through a gradual training, a Path which is called the Middle Way or the Eightfold Path.
(Ok we don't have this but we have another path. But still ethics and correct behavior are very important in Scientology.)
For a practising Buddhist it consists of maintaining the five Buddhist Precepts, which are to refrain from:
1. Deliberately causing the death of any living being; (just like in scientology)
2. Intentionally taking for one's own the property of another; (just like in scientology)
3. Sexual misconduct, in particular adultery; (just like in Scientology)
4. Lying and breaking promises; (just like in Scientology)
5. Drinking alcohol or taking stupefying drugs which lead to lack of mindfulness. (doesn't Scientology oposses drugs too?)
Kamma. (Agree...)
Rebirth (just like in Scientology)
The Buddha pointed out that no God or priest nor any other kind of being has the power to interfere in the working out of someone else's Kamma. Buddhism, therefore, teaches the individual to take full responsibility for themselves. (In Scientology we believe that you are fully responsible for your life and everything that has happened to you. Isn't this similar?)
The reason that you were insulted by my comment is because you do not understand Scientology. Scientology is not Dianetics. But true Dianetics auditing the discovery of past lives was made. People still remember traumas from past lives. Scientology doesn't try to erase the reactive mind but to put it under your control in other words make it analitical not reactive. And this is done by taking resposability about your mistakes not forgeting them.
Also I want to point out that a council of thirteen Shinto Buddhist sects, some dating back over fourteen centuries, published a formal recognition of Scientology as a learned path and undertook to train a number of their monks in it around 1994? The current Holder of the Secrets of this council has a treatise about his own study of Scientology published on the web.
http://www.bonafidescientology.org/Chapter/01/page18.htm
http://www.neuereligion.de/ENG/SAWADA/fs1.htm
Also there is a Scientology mission in Nepal
http://www.scientology.org/en_US/world/news/missionary/pg000.html
Another 3 in india.
http://www.scientology.org/en_US/world/news/missionary/pg001.html
Another one in Taiwan
http://www.scientologytoday.org/press/610052356581_scn-local.html
Also there are many churches of scientology and missions in Japan.
http://www.scientology-tokyo.org/
http://www.scientologytoday.org/press/610032309341_scn-int.html
I'm sorry but you don't understand.
Scientology is a super movement that is taking the planet by storm.
http://www.scientology.org/html/opencms/cos/scientology/en_US/news-media/briefing/2005/vm/seindia/050406.html
Scientology is a religion in its more spiritual sense. Didn't Gautama Siddhartha searched for a path to become a Buddha for years before becoming one? Isn't it true that anyone can become a Buddha and that's the ultimate goal of Buddhism? Well true Scientology this goal can be achieved and you don't have to hide in a mountain and meditate for years. You can live and enjoy life.
2006-10-20 17:24:35 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
well in ole toms defense, he apologized to brooke. but im not into scientology either. people can beleive what they want though, thats the beauty of it
2006-10-20 10:28:28 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
Sorry, to hear your having such a bad day.
2006-10-20 10:28:07 · answer #10 · answered by Kerilyn 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋