Is it OK to judge murderers or rapists? Do atheists believe in opening the jails and letting out criminals?

Question

What does moral relativism and a concept of right and wrong mean to you personally if you believe 'no one should judge' or 'what one person thinks is right does not apply to another with a different opinion'

What if the differing opinion and what feels good and what makes this individual happy is to torture and murder?

OK. I'm getting the intelligent posters.

You didn't read my question. I'm specifically referring to those who believe you shouldn't judge, and all is relative, and there is no right and wrong, only difference in opionion, etc.

Answer 1

Just because we dont beleive in God doesnt mean that man can just do whatever he wants to and murdering and raping and child perversions should be punished by the people of the town they live in. Freedom to do what you wants implies understanding that harming others will get you into trouble and your actions will be stopped by others. Torture and murder however much it may make the killer feel good cannot be tolerated by decent people.

Answer 2

You have an extremely warped sense of morality. Just because someone is not going to judge my life after I die, does not mean I want to live a bad life. Most intelligent people recognize that morality and religion are not inextricably linked. Just because I reject the ridiculousness of religions does not mean I think can go around and do whatever I want. I recognize that to be a part of society, I must adhere to the basically principles of society. A high moral character is very important to living a good life in any society.

I do not need myth or a 'messenger' to teach me not to torture or murder people. I have a mind, I know that is wrong. My moral values were not learned in a church or a synagogue or a mosque, they were learned at home, taught by my parents. This is the way it should be. Children should not be taught morals by someone who claims to be speaking for god. A god that nobody has ever seen or heard. That is ridiculous!

Answer 3

In your question, you refer to atheists in the same context as moral relativists. Many people who say the believe in God are moral relativists, many atheists believe in absolute morals (see for example those who promoted atheistic communism in the former Soviet block). So your question does lend to a bit of confusion.
I agree with you that moral relativism makes no sense when you follow it down to its logical conclusion.
As far as judging is concerned, one would have to understand which definition of judging one is referring to. In the Bible we see admonitions not to judge, and other admonitions to judge. The context is different. I shouldn't judge someone in the sense of deciding who is better or worse than I am. On the other hand in any society, be it a church or a state, or a family, there is a need for order and discipline, and certain actions cannot be tolerated: the rest of the society in question needs to be protected from rapists, murderers, etc. (By the way I think our society does not do a very good job of that. I think our law makers and our law enforcers are often confused about the purpose for jails).

While I can't make head or tale of the last half of Elph Aba's answer, I really liked her first part. She probably would not appreciate my religious convictions if I'm reading her right, but she is making the same point Jesus did.

Answer 4

Where on earth have you taken that from? We don't think no one should judge! On the contrary, it's not unbelievers who came up with the 'other cheek' thing!

I think you are entitled to ANY opinion, no matter how disgusting or wrong it is. And no one can limit you in any way. Now, that doesn't mean your ACTIONS should be unrestrained. I mean, you may think that Hitler was right, if that's how you feel. That's okay, and no one should do anything to you for that. Now, the very moment you do as much as touch a Jewish person, you're under arrest.

And what's the standard? Well, common sense, the respect for the others and the Penal Code. Simple, isn't it?

Answer 5

you seem to express some confusion over the phrase "Judge not lest you be judged"
It is up to God to judge the morality of the killer. Only he knows what is really in their heart. We as Christians do not have to understand why someone does something. You can hate the "sin" but love the sinner.
As for Atheists wanting the jails opened and murderers set free, I know they don't. they want justice. They just have a problem with believing there is a God. they want morality as much as you do.

Answer 6

When people, and it's not just atheists, say "don't judge" they are referring to the proclivity of the Religious Right for judging others by use of the Bible. They do not mean we shouldn't be judging or jailing criminals. Being an Atheist doesn't translate into a lack of morals. If you believe that it does you do not understand Atheism. Morality is not a strictly religious concept. I am not an Atheist, but I do have a couple of them in my family. Believe me, they have a stricter moral code, especially in raising their children, than my cousins who belong to the Church of Christ. To understand, you have to stop equating morality exclusively with religion, that simply is not the case.

Answer 7

You seem to have a serious problem with stereotyping groups of people. Just as you seem to think the average atheist is an "angst ridden teen," you seem to think all atheists follow a doctrine of very extreme moral relativism. Yes the extreme view of it says nobody has a right to judge anyone else, but most intelligent people would support punishing criminals whether they think our morals were God-given or not.

Answer 8

i do no longer know how atheist can have faith in no longer something and be fulfill with that selection. even once you think of there is no longer something, isn't it greater effective to have faith instand of no longer believing. people do no longer grow to be a rapist, murderer or baby molester without a reason. additionally, study the bible for what that's interior, to no longer decide the bible, or to decide different persons. comprehend the bible, no longer a million line interior the bible and pertend you recognize the full bible. I merely wish i ought to tutor you the way lots God is actual in my life despite the fact that if that's impossible to tutor it via fact it no longer no longer something you will see that.

Answer 9

What gives you the impression that Atheists want to open the jails and let out criminals? Not that I am aware of.

Yes, you can judge rapists and murderers.

Answer 10

You mistake the idea that there are no "absolute morals" for "no morals at all". Most morality is determined by the culture and society one grows up in, which in turn got its ideas of morality from long-ago necessities.

Societies needs rules for the members of it to be able to survive, and people who break those rules (particularly the habitual ones) are generally a danger to that survival.

Morality and law are two different things.