As a man of science, I have to say I don't believe the idea that a god created everything. I believe the Big Bang and the natural order of the universe. Why? Because of the tremendous amount of evidence.
Anyways, I've always asked religious people this question:
If god created everything, who created god?
I'm hoping someone will give an intelligent answer and not the rediculous "god exists out of time" bull.
2006-10-19
17:37:30
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Haha, yeah, I'M being ignorant......
2006-10-19
17:42:16 ·
update #1
Kindness: How can you be so sure about that?
2006-10-19
17:43:35 ·
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STEP UP: I'm not trying to prove anything or disprove anything, when it comes to that I'man Agnostic because I don't believe anyone can prove or disprove the existence of god. Then again, no one can prove or disprove the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster either.
2006-10-19
17:50:55 ·
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Your hero....: I'm not gonna report anyone, basically with your response you showed me just how stupid some people can be. You call me blind, but it is you who is blind and refuses to think of any other possibility besides your precious belief. It is so hard for you to believe that a simple, tiny singularity could've been there from the begining of time, yet it is easy to believe that a huge, almighty, all powerful, complex being existed from the begining of time. Who is really blind?
2006-10-19
18:05:07 ·
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Faith: I think you're the only person that truly gets it. Best response so far.
2006-10-19
18:06:44 ·
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It seems that very few people get it, while most give the typical,easy answers like "god was just there, therefore he caused the Big Bang". Whoo de freakin' do, you deserve a nobel prize.
What I was trying to get at is that the answer isn't that easy. It's not as easy as "oh, god was just there" or "he doesn't exist in the physical world", that's bull. The real simple answer comes down to faith. It is not science, it is not fact, it if faith, and some of you who believe in god understand that.
I wasn't trying to offend anyone, but of course some of the closed-minded people got offended, while some others offered very intelligent insight.
2006-10-19
18:26:33 ·
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I think your question stumps all people, not just "religious people" However, as a faithful proponent of science, let me argue that String Theory has evidence of all things being interconnected, and if everything is really just innumerable parts of a whole, isn't that wholeness god? Try to get rid of the cartoon concept of god, and consider the sum of all parts. Imagine that you have no peconceived ideas of what god is supposed to be like. When i look at quantum physics and string theory, everything as one is god to me, because somehow i come from it, i am a part of it, i am inseparable from it, and i can even THINK about it. But if you don't want to see god in any way, you never will. As for who created god? the concept of eternity isn't bull. Science just can't wrap its head around "no beginning" . Nor can science prove that god does not exist. Do you have a better theory?
2006-10-19 18:28:04
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answered by ? 5
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By religious people I assume you mean Christians, Jews, and Muslims. There are many other faiths out there that do not hold to the idea of a single supreme being. The reason no one can answer your question is that, by definition, it is unanswerable. To Christians, Jews, and Muslims it is an article of faith that God is a supreme being and therefore beyond our comprehension. We can try to understand what God wants from us but we cannot truly understand the nature of God. If we cannot understand the nature of God how can we hope to answer the question of does God come from? It is often difficult for a person with a scientific mind to understand religious faith. In truth it is little different than any other kind of faith. Have you ever had faith in a person, believed that they could do something or would act a certain way? That is all that faith is, a belief in something before the fact. And sometimes in our faith we are let down. Have you ever been let down by someone or something you believed in? But just because something did not happen the way you wanted or thought it should you do not always give up on that person, you still believe in them.
You have faith in science. For instance the big bang, as one of my favorite authors Terry Pratchett put it, “In the beginning there was nothing, and it exploded.” What caused the big bang? There are many theories but that is all they are. Scientists look at the data they have and create an assumption on that. People put faith in those theories. Sometimes theories are proven wrong, sometimes they are proven right, but often they cannot be proven either way. It’s kind of like the belief in God, we can’t prove it but that is what we think. I have a scientific mind, but I also believe in God.
2006-10-19 18:16:54
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answered by John G 3
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I will try to answer in Scientific Terms. You see, the question you pose is a classical mathematical pardox, which deals with infinity. That is, if some has to always create someone else, then this chain should go one, why stop at god. The answer is also deceptivly simple. You take two points on the number line between 1 and 2. Now traveling half way between these two points, you will reach 1.5. Travel more, and you can reach 1.9. But theortically, you can go on and on for ever going from 1.9 to 1.99999 to 1.999999999 and so on and you never reach to. But if you take a pencil in your hand and and trace from point 1 to point 2, You do actually reach point to. You dont end up traveling infintly. So there must be a point where you cannot ad another 9 to 1.9999999 and you actully reach to 2. That is the concept. You see, this proves that you go on and on to infinity. If so, you never reach point 2. And similarly, if you go on and on having a creator creating a creator, nothing acutally gets created. But we all are here, the universe is here, the planet is here, the life is here, same way the point 2 is there. So there must be a final point where creation orignates. That point is GOD. Read the Quran with understanding, and you will have conclusive proof. Many modern scientist today argue the concept of life being created due to an accident. Even darwin himself said that is theory failed to explain the underlying changes which took place to make such a marvelous peice of engienering as the Human Eye.
2006-10-19 18:55:18
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answered by Mustafa rOcKs 2
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Here's a question for you, mr. big science man. What was here before the big bang? One tiny atom that exploded into what we now know as the universe? Well where did this tiny atom come from? I know what you're gonna say, it was left overs from the "other" big bang. You think you are so smart. Every theory has points that that make it strong, and points that make it weak. Just because it's easy to pick on other people theories, doesnt mean its hard to pick on yours.
Are you freaking kidding me? You are willing to admit that a tiny spec of dust could have been around since the beggining of time, but you cant possibly fathom that there could have been an all powerful being who created time itself? If the tiny spec of space dust has been there since the begining of time, how long has it been? Has time always existed? There is no beginning? Quite frankly, that's not even possible scientificaly. All scientists will tell you that every thing has a begining and an end. You are just contradicting yourself, genius.
2006-10-19 17:54:37
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answered by Your hero until you meet Jesus 3
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There is an alternate scientific theory of the universe, called the Steady State Theory, which posits that the universe has always been in existence, rather than having come into existence via the Big Bang. This would make the idea of "who created God?" about as ridiculous as "who created the Universe?" If it always has been and will always be, then the need for a creator disappears. If you need a progenitor, then you will need the one that came before, and before, and before. Where would such a thing end? If there was one Big Bang, was there yet another preceding expansion/contraction cycle? It does not answer the question of "firsts" either, any more than "who created God?"
2006-10-19 17:53:04
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answered by Black Dog 6
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I'm sorry if you don't believe that God exists out of time but that's the truth. Look, the universe doesn't make any sense if you only consider it in 4 dimensions. You say you believe in the "big bang". Fine, but where did the matter come from to go "bang"? Saying that it always existed doesn't make sense because logically nothing at all should exist unless....
The big bang sounds very similar to the first part of the Bible.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
The eternal and almighty God stepped out of nothingness and said Bang! Let there be a universe. If there isn't an un-caused first cause of this universe then you just have to believe that for all eternity matter has simply existed with no explanation as to it's origin.
2006-10-19 17:48:46
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answered by Martin S 7
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This question sounds familiar.
Okay lets suppose you are right. How did the Big Bang occur. and where did the material come from if there was nothing before then.Energy does not create its self out of nothing.If you say its always been there then you refute your self.
The oldiest oral stories from the Sun worshiping religions . Says that the Creator of all things Made its self out of the primeval chaos that was before then. by giving it order.
next question what is the difference between Two atoms colliding at random to create the Big Bang and a self created intelligence speaking a word and creating the Physical universe we live in now.
Both require an action and a movement.
Can you prove that the Self created one did not send the two atoms on a collision course to create the word.
And what would either one sound like .
2006-10-19 17:59:38
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answered by Anonymous
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I'll give you an intelligent answer.
If God created everything, who created God?
Suppose the answer is XYZ.
Then you'll ask "Now who created XYZ?"
Suppose the answer is ABC.
The you'll again ask "Now who created ABC?"
Then we get ....... - ABC - XYZ - God - everything.
Can you see where this is heading?
The fact is just because you can't see (or understand) God doesn't mean God either exist or not. Time and time again we were shown that this is a question without solid answer.
If you never heard of the existence of Galaxy Ali Baba somewhere billions of light years from earth, will you be so foolish enough to be a smart alec and start saying "There's no Galaxy Ali Baba". The point is, it doesn't matter whether it exist or not. If it exist, so what? If it doesn't exist, so what again? Why are people so attached to God?
Those that believe God are attached to keep on emphasizing it's existence.
Those that disbelieve God are equally attached to keep discrediting it's existence.
Both are equally foolish and dumb.
Anyone reading this will surely be offended, but it really take an open and liberated mind to really understand what message I am trying to send here.
2006-10-19 17:49:28
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answered by Anonymous
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well you ask a double edged sword as a question.
Why??
Because I as a Christian believe EVERYTHING the Bible says. Period. The Bible says GOD always was, Before him there was and is not God.
I answer your question this way and you as a Atheist call it ignorant because you are looking for Proof of some kind that none of us can offer you.
It is not about Proof to us., It is about Faith. I know God is real, How,,,,, because I do.
There is nothing I can show you, Nothing I can put on paper, Nothing I can put under a microscope or anything like that.
It is Faith.
If that is stupid to you then you are not really looking for an answer but more or less a way to mock Christians.
If that is your point then you are no better then the Hypocritical Christians you are attacking.
God Bless
2006-10-19 17:52:02
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answered by melissa s 4
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Did matter have a beginning, or did it always exist? Either answer seems to me to be puzzling to our minds. If it had a beginning, we are inclined to want to ask "Then what gave it a beginning? What was there before there was anything?" But if it always existed, that is equally puzzling. I don't see the difference between asking the question about matter, and asking the question about God. Did God have a beginning, or did He always exist? I really don't see why this question would prove or disprove anything.
If all things come from matter and energy, then where did matter and energy come from? It's the same question. Just because we don't really know the answer, doesn't mean there IS no answer.
2006-10-19 17:44:42
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answered by Developing Love 3
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