Evolutionists, how do you explain this?

Question

Ok, first I have one question:
Is Evolutionism based on the Big Bang?

Alright, how do you explain:
People come from Chimpanzees, it's in the genes, it's in the DNA, etc. Where did these Chimps come from?
What it all boils down to is:
Where did the most ancient organism come from?
If Evolutionism is based on the Big Bang, read the first two sentences in any book about it:
"At first there was nothing. And then, there was something." Ok, stop. How do you get something from nothing? Unless you can make it magically appear, the answer is it is impossible. Let me supply an example: I have no apples, and I am completely isolated from the rest of the universe. This is the nothing part. Now, somehow, I have two apples. So, how does this something come from nothing?
Also, evoluton has a thing built into it called mutations. There are only four nitrogen bases that code for genes, and most of them, if they are replaced will work like they would anyway. --More details coming.

So, if this sort of mutation only works when there is a radical change in the gene, then there would only be one every so often. However, if these genes had changed, then that would mean that all chimps would eventually would have evolved or died out. Since Chimps are basically, by DNA exactly like humans, and they have one more chromosome pair than us, and we had intercourse with one, we would produce a sterile organism with 47 chromosomes. However, Chimps are still alive today.
The Big Bang somehow created all the stars and the sun. It somehow placed us at a perfect distance from the sun, and somehow Hydrogen and Oxygen and Na and Cl combined to create our oceans, and land masses somehow appeared on what we call earth. We could have landed in a billion-gazillion different places than earth. That's a mighty large F***ING coincidence if you ask me.
This is just some stuff to think about. How could this have happened?

To lottyjoy: God existed before the world and the universe began.
To oxyman (w/e): This is not a science question, this is the stating of what evolutionists say to be true, and me countering it.

To jedi1josh: You cannot justify a statement with a question. Like when doing geometric proofs, you cannot say "angle 1 is congruent to angle 2" and your reason be "well, why cant it be?"

To NdMagic (blah): Ok, not chimps, but some form of monkey has the same amino acids as humans do.
If the theory of Evolution does not come from the Big Bang, then where the F*** did organisms come from?

Ok, so maybe some of my "facts" were wrong, but then if we did not share a common ancestor from chimps, then where did we come from, where did they come from, etc?
God was here before the world began, therefore, he was able to create everything.

If "suns" exploded to create a "nebula" (or w/e happened to create it, where did they come from?) Y'all are talking in circles.

To Chocolahoma: I agree with you. I am merely stating "facts", just like others may state "facts" that can disprove creationism. I'm not saying I don't believe in God, but I do not understand how these things may have come about God hadn't created them, like theories of how this stuff happened.

Ok, so I read all of y'alls answers, and came up with the following conclusion:
My biology teacher does not know the first thing about it. The chimps thing I got from her class.

Hold on. If evolutionism isn't based on the big bang, then how was the universe created in the first place? (See the apple theory a couple comments up)

Answer 1

People from Chimpanzees? Just look at them and us. We're almost the same, they're just hairier, dumber and uglier than us. And our genes match exactly 99%, only one gene makes us different.

Chimps come from Africa.

Most ancient organisms began as bacteria. Slowly in time to be able to survive in there enviroment, they adapted and future generation changed. First bacteria, then slug like creatures in the sea, which eventually changed to predators in the sea (used to be calmful and safe before) then slowly they moved onto land which created the land creatures of today.

The big bang actually wasn't 'nothing'. some suns were created from something called a 'Nebula'. A HUUUUUGE cloud that is thousands of times bigger than a single star. Then after time, that star which was created, billions of years later it exploded and the particles or whatever formed into another sun. Which was ours. The junk formed into planets, so we live on a junk!!! And to proove it, look between Jupitor and Mars. There's an astroid circle around which can form into a planet if it wasn't for jupitor.
Anyways, eventually that's how Earth formed.

Mutation is genes that change and go wrong. And it creates a revolution to a new type of species. Look at chimpanzees and us, just one simple gene and mutation caused us to be so different. And mutation can come from diseases as well, they begin in animals, then mutate and able to attack human beings. And mutation is occuring right now, look at a few generations back. People used to be shorter than us, waaay shorter. Now a 6'5 person is tall, but back then it was considered a giant.

Oh since I read your other additional detail, here's why chimps didn't die off. I can't give you much explanation since I don't know much about it. A group of chimps I've heard split up. One group changed, the other remained the same. Look at the caveman long ago, they appeared almost like monkeys, almost a bit different. They were closer related to chimps.

So in reality, yes everything started witht the Big Bang. And I'm not sure I exactly answered your question right since you names off some elements forming that I've never heard of before, so please excuse me if this wasn't what you were looking for.

And that other statement of yours, about where everything started, no one knows. Billions and billions of years ago, our universe was created, first of all it was puny, about the size of a marble (how scientist know, I have no idea, researching could help). Then years passed and it grew sooooo large, so our universe is a few billion years old, not trillions since some people do beleive so. And I'm not sure where the nebula came from, humans don't know everything. It's not like we have a time machine and our technology isn't so advanced yet. And people don't even know what's beyond our universe, the end of it is just plasma walls surrounding us which no one knows the existence from behind it. Maybe heaven??? I ask myself that, and it kind of creeps me out when there might have been 'nothing' billions of years ago.

Answer 2

You are missing out an important issue. Every day 6000 people have "one in a million" experiences just from the population. Now, consider the mass of the universe. Trivial likelihood events that are within the ordinary laws of nature are happening with some frequency all around us.

I am a scientist and your questions strike me as thoughtful but uneducated. My suspicion is that you are a high school student and you know more than most but less than a PhD in biology or physics. You might have complex analysis or real analysis. What you are missing are the systems of real depth. If you have had high school algebra, then you are working on the math technology of the 11th century. It might surprise you but the textbooks haven't changed in topics in all that time. If you have geometry then you are working on well over 2000 year old technology. Even if you have had basic statistics, you are working on 300 year old technology. If you have had calculus then you are still 300 years out of date.

The world was flat then and deterministic. The world has moved on both in math and the sciences.

Also, evolution is not dependent (logically) on the big bang since it was discovered 100 years earlier.

Most college students, except some engineering and computational biology programs don't get enough math unfortunately to really understand the problems in your ideas.

When you think of the Universe THINK REAL BIG. Then trivial probabilities occur quite a bit.

I suspect you are bright and the arguments really are not that bad, but they are uninformed and have in fact been answered many times in the sciences. However, you need to up your skills to be able to understand this, unless we were having a spoken conversation. It is impossible to convey this type of knowledge through Yahoo Answers. Unfortunately, you are missing some of the basic concepts and so your answers look correct.

I am Christian. However, science is structured to ignore the need for a God. You can certainly describe the entire universe without ever needing to create a God to explain anything. It doesn't mean a God does not exist, but God is unnecessary for all that is to be here. Unfortunately our education system has not kept up with the leaps in knowledge and tools that are available.

Answer 3

Hi there.

Okay, lets just clear something up, evolution does not explain where we originated, just how we came to be, evolution isn't the same thing as the big bang or abiogenesis. Of course the latter are just scientific ideas that need the be refined and what not.

Anyway, I really have a problem with your whole "big coincidence thing" with the correct position and size of earth and stuff. Okay, thing about this, if we weren't the correct position from the sun, and our planet wasn't the right size, would we be asking ourselves these questions right now? NOPE. Its not like people are on Neptune going "I wish our planet was close like earth". The point is yes our planet our of trillions and trillions and countless planets are correctly position to a star that we are able to support some kind of life, but if our planet wasn't, then we couldn't be here right now. And other planets out there probably can support life and are right now, maybe not the same organisms that are here on earth, but isn't it irrational and egotistical to think that we're the only ones who exist in this huge universe?

Right now, neither one of us know what caused life to begin, and i mean neither one of us. NOBODY KNOWS. Okay, you may have a good idea, but that's all you have. So hey, all theories are plausible, just some more likely than others.

Answer 4

Evolution has absolutely nothing to do with the supposed "Big Bang". Of course the non-living universe has evolved (gradually changed) in a sense, since it came into being. So has the planet Earth. However, "evolution" as it is usually spoken of means BIOLOGICAL evolution, which is the study of ongoing change in LIVING things. The process of biological evolution therefore didn't begin until several BILLION years after the initial creation of the universe, because until then there were no living organisms to evolve. If you are going to spend your time attacking a specific area of biological science, at least take the time to find out what that area of science actually deals with.

Answer 5

First If you can explain where God came from, I Will explain where the first Hydrogen atoms came from
Second We did not come form chimps. we had a comon ancestor
Third Do you deny that mutations exist? How do you explain the fact that you have to get a new flu shot every year? Because the flu virus has mutated and become different. Even creationist accept micro evolution and it is not a big mental step to accept that micro evolution over a period of missions of years can produce a different species.

Answer 6

Well, I've just had some personal experiences which have led me to believe that God exists.

But I am still struggling with the fact that I believe in the Theory of Evolution - I am therefore trying to rationalize that maybe, God made the Universe and then the evolution part started from there.

But maybe I'm out on a limb with this?

Answer 7

The big bang is a separate theory all together. Evolution simply states that randomly occurring mutations within an organism are either favored or not by natural selection and this process leads to an organism becoming more suitable to survive in it's environment and to be chosen as a mate to procreate. It does not discuss origins, that is abiogenesis... which again is another separate theory

Answer 8

Why do you waste your time typing this drivel?

You have already decided what you believe, and you are not interested in educated answers to your loaded and logically twisted questions.

Religion also requires you to believe in the "something out of Nothing" scenario. You say evlution amounts to "magic", which is an appeal to supernatural causes for life's beginning...

Isn't that exactly what God is? a supernatural cause for life's existence? Why do you ridicule another person's "magic" if your belief is also based on supernatural forces?

And Genesis echoes your criticism of the Big Bang and your erroneous connection of it to evolution. Didn't God look upon emptiness and them >BOOM< there was something?" Why does it bother you if someone else interprets "Boom" in a different way than you do?

I am not here to argue in favor of evolution or of creationism. My beliefs belong to me and I ask no one to consider me as the final authority. Maybe you could try that, and you would rest at night better knowing that convincing others of your beliefs is Not your responsibility.

Answer 9

You need to go back to bio 101.... man did not come from chimps...or monkey... or any other primate... evolutionists think man and primats had a common ancestor...they are wrong of course... but that dose not keep the "Theory" of Evolution from being a valid tool for scientific study... it dose help eplain a lot of the variations of animal and plant life... the only proble is that there asre many non-creationist who do not understand the " theory" either... the bigget problem they have is thinking it applies to mankind... an it dose not...

Answer 10

Which is more believable: Life forming on its own, or a supernatural deity forming on its own?

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Don't you see the logic here? You're pressing evolutionists for a sensical and reasonable answer, but you're dodging the question of "Who created God?" by saying "God existed before time!" That's not an answer. How do you know that? How can you possibly prove that? More importantly, how does that even make sense?