i was driving in a closed community where they have their own security and regulations, and pretty much ive been going there for about a year, and recently i went 28 mph in a 15 mph zone and they caught me and gave me a ticket, they said i have two choices in regards to the ticket.
One, i pay $100 fine for the ticket
Or
Two, i schedule an appointment(which i did) and present my case in a panel of people who will decide whether to charge me the fine or not.
PLEASE I NEED HELP IN WHAT SHOULD I SAY AND DEFEND MYSELF SO I DONT GET THE FINE(i dont have the money to pay it)??
should i deny that i was speeding even though i got caught in the radar?? or persuade them in some way??
2006-10-19 06:47:08 · 15 answers · asked by balanced112 2 in Politics & Government ➔ Law Enforcement & Police
Give it a try.... I used to get tickets back in college and would appeal them and got off on about half the tickets...
If this is your first ticket with them just tell the board that you are sorry you were driving too fast, you just didn't realize how fast you were going but you'll make sure in the future that you are much more careful... tell them this is the first time you've been pulled over there and that if they could waive the violation this time you would be very grateful because the fine would put a real financial hardship on you...
These boards are made up of just ordinary people who are usually compassionate (at least a little) to a first time offender...
2006-10-19 06:57:45 · answer #1 · answered by Andy FF1,2,CrTr,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You can either pay the fine or (hopefully) try to convince the panel that this was a first time infraction and you have an otherwise clean record.
If you've been convicted or plead guilty to speeding before, well....
And yes, since it's a closed community, the security guards are most likely given some form of police powers or are given deputized status by local or state law enforcement, and are functioning as an extension of local police, functioning on said private property. Not unlike campus police on colleges and universities near you.
2006-10-19 07:02:43 · answer #2 · answered by Rafael C 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I believe you should simply pay the ticket for the crime you admit to doing. If you really wish to challenge it then consider the following:
Request a review on their authority to issue tickets to the public. You are not a resident of the community. You did not sign an agreement to have your case tried by a panel. You want your case tried in a legal court of law.
Argue that having to present your case to a panel of community members and not an appointed judge is cruel and unusual punishment for your alleged crime.
Did they have you sign the ticket when you received it?
Are there any factual errors or omissions on the ticket?
Is the legal statute clearly stated and correct? (look it up)
Did the security guard obtain the proper training on using the radar gun?
Is the calibration on the radar gun current?
If the security guard is not present at the panel meeting then you were not given the opportunity to challenge your accuser. They cannot try you twice for the same crime so you go free.
2006-10-19 06:50:17 · answer #3 · answered by Plasmapuppy 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I kind of agree with Daniel on this. Does a security guard have the right to issue you a ticket?
I don't think I would deny speeding, they got you on radar. Offer some sort of service for the community or suck it up, do the crime serve the time.
2006-10-19 07:05:09 · answer #4 · answered by mom of 2 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
This has to be some agreement where you made when you moved into this community.
If you are not a resident of that community, just a visitor, I doubt if they can force you to do either.
Since unless you have a legal agreement with the community a security guard does not even have the authority to pull over anyone to "issue" a ticket to anyone not with a contract agreement to do so.
2006-10-19 14:19:06 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
why is it when people are clearly in the wrong, instead of paying the consequences they want to try to get out of it by claiming it was not there fault or lying? look dude, if you were speeding-which you clearly admit you were- and for heavens sake they have proof that you were clocked speeding- it seems to me that the decent thing to do would be to pay the ticket. maybe if you are honest and tell the truth and admit to speeding and further more apologize for such a lack in judgment, ask them if they will settle for half the ticket amount. it sounds like you will have to appear before some sort of board(board of directors or covenents committee board) they may settle for half seeing as though you manned up to your part and are sorry.
2006-10-19 06:58:11 · answer #6 · answered by ABC 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Say the truth you don't have the money, you are very sorry you went over the speed limit. And offer some type of community service instead of paying the ticket. This will show them that you want to make your Wrong, Right.
2006-10-19 06:50:17 · answer #7 · answered by Here I am 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
In all my years I have never heard of a private security office being allowed to have the authority to issue citations that are binding with a fine, or court time. Where on earth is this. They really don't have the authority to do that anywhere in the US that I know of. I could be wrong, but ....
2006-10-19 07:03:44 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I assume you don't live there?
As this is not a real cop I have no idea how they make you pay a fine although they may deny you access and that would seem reasonable to me.
Isn't it odd how people are willing to break the law then try to avoid the results.
2006-10-19 06:54:01 · answer #9 · answered by madjer21755 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I have never heard of a private security guard having the right to issue tickets. I would check your local laws on this.
2006-10-19 07:32:47 · answer #10 · answered by mnwomen 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋