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Woman have a right to choose if they want to be mothers, and yet they can make the man be a Father even if he doesn't want the child.What if he decided he wanted to be a Father and she didn't,could he make her have the child and give it to the father and then make her pay child sopport ?It seems that both should have the same rights. I am not for abortion in any circumstance, other than life and death matters.Nor do I support dead beat parents in any way.I have 8 children and have supported them all.However what we have today is very one sided.A good man who wants to be a father should not have his son or daughter aborted.

2006-10-18 19:12:18 · 32 answers · asked by don_steele54 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Although I do not believe in abortion I do know the radical feminist use this not so much for choice, put also for power. If the situation were reversed, they would be screaming bloody murder to even the playing field just as they do for all the affirmative actions they have gotten. Yet they tell us that women can do anything a man can do only better. Well if that were true, why do they need affirmative action in the first place? In reality, both men and women have things they can do better and as such would it not be better to work TOGETHER for solutions?

Now back to the question. I have known women to abort a baby because they knew the father wanted it. Others have kept a baby knowing that the father (and often not the father of that child) would have to pay for the next 18 or more years even if he was not able to see that child. Society wrongfully thinks that most abortions are because men do not want the burden of paying for the baby. Often it is to keep a husband from finding out about an affair.

Often a man can be sent a notice of paternity in such a way that it would be known he will get it too late to contest it. (i.e.) sending it to a wrong address) He will then have to pay even if he proves he is not the father. Actually, it can even be much worse then this. A member of Shattered Men told me that her husbands ex had been collecting child support for FIVE YEARS and he had never been able to see his daughter. There was a good reason for that. She did not EXIST. His ex forged legal documents including a birth certificate, DNA testing and other things to collect money under false pretenses. Although this is outright fraud, she has never been charged with this and she has only been given a 16 month sentence for tax evasion over a year after it was proven the child did not exist when she kidnapped a 3 year old to bring her to court to pass her off as their 5 year old daughter.

To answer your question simply YES...I do believe the playing field should be leveled. It sure would be if the situation were reversed.

I would like to take this one step further. There is no way a man can say he is not the father of a child if he has had sexual relations with a woman within a certain time frame..but if he has NOT had them, then she can not accuse him of being the father. The safest thing for both men and women is to abstain from sexual relations until they are married to each other. There is always a hidden cost to this..and it is almost more then we can afford. See the link below.

2006-10-18 21:15:34 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Logically the father could force the issue legally as long as he had the money... but the prob with that is that most wemon can not handle going through with bringing a child into the world and then havin no part in it, where as men for ages going all the way back have.
Besides that, a man doesn't risk his health, looks, and have any sort of changes for a child just in pregnancy. Thus, the women has to bare the pain, risk/health and looks for the sake of the child. Until a man can carry the baby and a women does not have to bare the risk & pain... then he has no say... until then.
Even in abortion there is pain... and risk for a women... thats why a man has the choice to cover up and use it right or not. If not, he's asking for a kid... and is nieve / ignorant and stupid if not.

2006-10-18 19:33:39 · answer #2 · answered by SunRise 2 · 2 0

I agree that both parents have to make the decision together. I am Pro-Life so I say no abortions at all. The father can take full custody if he wants it and the mother doesn't want to. And vica-versa. But if the father has custody, the mother should pay child-support. I think if the father wants the baby to raise himself or wants the baby just to live and have him/her put up for adoption, he should be able to make the mother keep the their baby and agree with him. Of course, she is the preg one and the ones will pains and discomfort and growing body. So the father should stay in contact with her during the entire preg and help her out with medical bills, pay half for her preg clothes and food and other things that she needs to provide a healthy body for their baby to grow in. And if they are a couple, go thru counseling during the preg to see if they will stay together and keep their or to help with the emotional stress of giving their baby up for adoption.

It is so easy for a couple to get preg. Only takes one time and a few minutes, honestly! Then she is preg for 9 months and her body goes thru lots of changes. The father can just leave. And it takes time and money to find him and get support and such. I think if two people think they are mature enough to have sex, then they are mature enough to see this baby through to birth and decide what's next for them and their baby. Sadly, many women get abortions without ever telling the fathers. I think that when a woman goes to an abortion clinic, the father has to be there to also sign the paperwork. I hate abortions! but if they remain legal, then some of the laws need to change to help the both the father and mother. It took two to make a baby, it should take two to kill it.

2006-10-18 19:40:40 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

My husband thinks that if a woman can have an abortion without the father's consent then fathers should not have to pay child support for children they don't want. But I do like the idea of the woman going through with the pregnancy, the father getting custody and her paying child support. If he wants the child why shouldn't he be able to have it! People need to be more responsible!!

2006-10-18 19:20:52 · answer #4 · answered by ~Mrs. D~ 5 · 4 1

Yes! I agree with you! As soon as all the other rights of women are equalled out......we should start allowing men to decide if they want to be fathers.

First we will ensure that all other things are equally decided/paid for etc....and then we argue men's rights on fatherhood.

Let's start with sports.....all professional athletes will be paid between $30,000. and $60,000. per year and no more! That's just for starters....then lets trash the rest of society and and turn things upside down completely.....that'll teach those men! (seriously...we've got a long way to go, to equal things out in this society). As a woman....I'm not giving up my rights over my own body. How many times do we hear about "deadbeat mom's"....hanging out in the strip bar, and avoiding paying child support for the children they already have? Am I being too judgmental here, or are you not noticing the majority?

If men can make a full team of deciding they want full responsibility of our future generations.....let them begin their arguments towards that goal. (all things being equal...let men fight for their rights).

2006-10-18 19:35:01 · answer #5 · answered by ? 5 · 0 0

men do have a choice if they don't want to be a father. it's called a condom. use a rubba bubba. and a strong advocacy for advances in male birth control would be a great political issue men should voice.

second ... in America a man does not own his wife. her body does not belong to him. a woman's body is her own and if she chooses not to get pregnant or remain pregnant that is totally her autonomous decision.

third ... women often pay child support after a divorce if they are not the custodial parent of the children.

if a good man wants to be a father and the only way he feels he can get what he wants is to force his wife into reproductive slavery i suggest this good man move overseas to some 3rd world country where women are accustomed to being subjugated chattel.

2006-10-18 19:23:29 · answer #6 · answered by nebtet 6 · 2 1

>>"Should men have a right to choose if they want to be Fathers ?"<<

they chose that when they unzip their pants.

>>"What if he decided he wanted to be a Father and she didn't,could he make her have the child and give it to the father and then make her pay child sopport ?"<<

when they have the technology to take the fertilized egg out of her, and put it into him, (though, I am only half kidding here... from my understanding they've done something like this at least once, sucessfully) so she is not the one who has to carry it, and have their body forcibly changed... sure.

>>"It seems that both should have the same rights"<<

your right to swing your fist, ends at the tip of my nose.

if you having that right infringes on the rights of another person, then you don't have any claim to that right.

>>".A good man who wants to be a father should not have his son or daughter aborted."<<

then you carry it for 9 months and "give labor" to it.

edit: btw I'm male.

2006-10-18 19:20:36 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

you recognize I do comprehend the place adult males are coming from whilst they communicate approximately their loss of rights whilst it is composed of an unborn toddler yet whilst he forces the undertaking then a woman might "have" to have an abortion notwithstanding if it wasn't her plan. we won't be able to enable somebody else start to dictate to us what we are in a position to do with our reproductive rights - such because of the fact the courts announcing some undesirable woman has to have an abortion reason the guy needs it. I see no way shall we provide greater rights to the adult males in those circumstances devoid of denying a woman her rights interior the approach. somebody suggested the girl can decide for to undertake the youngster out devoid of the Fathers consent - yet whilst that Father chooses to maintain the youngster himself the courts won't enable the adoption!! that's one time whilst the father can win if he needs custody and duty for the youngster.

2016-10-02 11:02:47 · answer #8 · answered by bungay 4 · 0 0

There are birthcontrol pills out there for men, you guys just do not use them and the drug companies do not think iuys would want to take them so they are not advertised.
You have the right to choose, to choose to keep it in your pants, to choose to wear a condom.
If you do not want be a Dad, look into birth control, make the companies supply the male birth controll pill, or do not have sex. Thats your choice.

2006-10-18 19:34:44 · answer #9 · answered by Juniper C 4 · 0 0

its a shame there arent more men like you who love the children they create.... a friend of mine recently had a very hard time when he found out his gf aborted his child w/ out even telling him she was pregnant...... if nothing else there should be some kind of notification to the father.... the entire situation with abortion shows an error in the way were raising our young ppl.....

... as of right now less than 50% of households are unmarried. isnt the flaw that we are in relationships that are not secure? isnt the the flaw that we are unintentionally creating life?

its not likely that the laws will soon change so just start at home


teach your little girls to respect themselves and to be good women.....
teach your little boys to respect themselves and women.... tell them how to be good men.....

peace be with you all

2006-10-18 19:21:54 · answer #10 · answered by Submission 3 · 1 2

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