Given these quotes from Hitler, how do you feel about the MYTH that he was a Christian?

Question

10th October, 1941, midday:

Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)

14th October, 1941, midday:

The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity [is] the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)

19th October, 1941, night:

The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.

13th December, 1941, midnight:

Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... [here he insults people who believe transubstantiation] .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease. (p 118 & 119)

14th December, 1941, midday:

Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.... Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics. (p 119 & 120)

9th April, 1942, dinner:

There is something very unhealthy about Christianity (p 339)

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The allegation is sometimes made that the Catholic Church never excommunicated Hitler from membership. It is unknown whether Hitler was formally excommunicated or not, but it doesn't matter. Hitler was already excommunicated ipso facto under the canon law of the Catholic Church for his numerous sinful crimes. He could only have returned to the Catholic faith, even assuming that he would ever have wanted to, by having his excommunication removed by the Pope himself. The lifting of such excommunication is reserved to the Pope, latae sententiae.

Furthermore, the conference of German bishops excommunicated all Nazis in 1930, and in the 1932 elections forbade Catholics to vote for a Nazi. By being the leader of the Nazi party, Hitler had already put himself outside of the Church.

These quotes are from the book: Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953

Answer 1

Fantastic quotes! Hitler was certainly not a Christian. Any reading of the Bible will tell you that he was no follower of Jesus!

Hitler sure wanted people to believe he was a Christian, however. Of course he SAID he was doing things in the name of Christ, he was trying to get the backing of Germany, a very Christian nation! He would lie and say anything to get the people to follow.

The quotes Ronin listed are of no significance. Those quotes were from speeches, and we know that Hitler believed in lying to the people. Your quotes, however, have a much greater legitimacy, since they are from the private conversations of Hitler.

Ultimately, however, it doesn't even matter if Hitler believed himself to be a Christian or not. Everything he did was completely opposite of the example of Christ.

If you can point to Hitler to say "this is what Christianity brings about," then you can likewise point to Stalin and say, "this is what atheism brings about." Or point to Hiroshima and say, "this is what science and knowledge about the universe brings about," for that matter.

Answer 2

http://atheism.about.com/library/quotes/bl_q_AHitler.htm

I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work. [Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]

Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith . . . we need believing people. [Adolf Hitler, April 26, 1933, from a speech made during negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordant of 1933]

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were ... [Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922, published in My New Order, quoted in Freethought Today April 1990]


Just like the bible, there are quotes on both sides.

Answer 3

Thanks for posting this, it had some facts I was looking for :) to back up the following:

Follow this logic for a moment. Darwin gave intellectuals a basis to believe in natural, biological creation. Google evolution fact or fiction. The fossil record is a fact. However, no one can prove how "new" genetic code was created. This "how did it happen" part of evolution is purely a hypothesis, even today.

Now why is this a problem? Check your history. In the mid 1800's, Darwin's hypothesis of purely biological creation led to godless political philosophies that have been and are the most oppressive that have ever existed. The Nazi’s were given a scientific justification for ethnic cleansing (Jews), and many nations use this justification today. The godless Marxists eliminate (kill) capitalists and (kill) believers and (kill) anyone else who gets in their way to create a dreary and oppressive society. Open your eyes, would you like to live in Cuba or North Korea, or during Stalin's programs and Mao's revolution. 10's of millions of people suffered and died.

Yes, fanatical believers do exist, and they are as bad as the godless groups. However, the message of God is to love God with all your heart, and love others as you love yourself. That is a good message.

Here is why this is so important. Philosophically, since God is a creator, he created each of us for a reason. Thus, each of us are unique, and have a god given purpose for life that we need to achieve whether janitor, lawyer, doctor, actor, quarterback, whatever. This totally aligns with the sanctity of human life. Thus, government should protect each of our individual rights and allow each of us to find our destiny. This aligns with a society that believes in a creator and freedom of religion. That is a good thing.

I deeply fear Godless societies. Government should respect the free expression of religion of people and communities. Belief in a creator is vital to the health of a society.

Here is my test for you: when you have a child, just look in their eyes and tell them they are a random quirk of nature and in the grand scheme of nature, their life is meaningless. I dare you. Yet, that is the intellectual dead-end of existence, if we are just random quirks of nature.

Thus, if science can get to the point to showing that genetic code cannot be created naturally, not adaption of existing code, then there will be a complete change in philosophy and political philosophy to align with freedom and protection of individual rights. Until then, is it a choice that works for us, but cannot be justified.

By the way, how did the brain get programmed for eyesight. To accept 2 images, combine them, to provide near instant assessment and response, millions of lines of unbelievably brilliant genetic code, how did that happen. We could put 1000 genius's to work on this today for 10 years, and they would not be able to figure out how to do that today. Not only is there no randomness, there is unimaginably brilliant creation involved.

Answer 4

to trinity and whynotaskdon: catholic was the 1st form of christianity, whatever denomination you practice came directly from it. you might as well say you're human but you're parents arent.

anyway, about Hitler,
he was a crazy, fickle man.

he lied to his people dozens of times, so that person who answered with speech quotes is off.

many poeple say he was jewish, since his grandmother was jewish. but its pretty obvious he wasnt catholic, since he killed more catholics in his concentration camps than he did jews.

but it doesnt matter, cause if his works didnt back up what he says, how can he be called christian?

Answer 5

anyone can claim to be a Christian - however it's what they do as a Christian that shows the mettle. if someone is truly a Christian, they try with all their will to act in a Christ like manner.
faith without works is dead, just as works without faith is dead.

i won't deny that adolph claimed to be a CHristian, however he was never truly a Christian, otherwise he would never have attempted to wipe out the Jews or think he was better than the others.

Answer 6

Fabrications by Christians who will go to any lengths to disown Hitler's actual Christianity.

How about the quotes Hitler actually said, which are documented, instead of the fraudulent "writings"...

"We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession. It combats the Jewish-materialist spirit within and without us, and is convinced that our nation can achieve permanent health from within only on the principle: the common interest before self-interest."

" My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited."

Answer 7

Hitler was definately no Christian!! Hitler was an out & out occultist & divinatist.

This is for so-called "Trinity": Roman Catholicism is 100% true Christianity. Get your nose out of those stupid Jack Chick tracts & get your facts straight!!!!;-0

Answer 8

Is there any actual proof of him saying theese....Plus if he wasnt how come he killed everyone and everything that went against christanity JEWS,Hmos Jehovas Witnesses.

Answer 9

Hitler was a madman.

Answer 10

He obviously was not a christian. He thought he was? Who thought he was? How many Jews is he responsible for killing? Forget the quotes he was definetely not christian.