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remember, believing in god requires a mind not completely rational, that means that you have faith. That is one of the hard parts to get by, to have faith in something that can't be proven, does your faith go beyond what you can't touch?

2006-10-18 06:59:22 · 11 answers · asked by recentlyconfirmedagnosticofminds 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

All right, in order of who gave good answers and who gave them first, here are my replies.
Epitome...
Ofcourse belief in evolution requires faith, evolution being a theory. But so is gravity. do you believe in that? And I also believe that faith can be argued for rationaly and logicaly, I just believe that there are just too many permanent kinks.
pops...
Dude, ever been to school? Of course you have, your English is fine. So, I noticed you see the "organization" of the universe. Study the Physics, you will see all the basic layouts that allows our universe to operate without any guiding force. And as for Creationism, ever consider that there was no such thing as nothing at the "begining" of the universe? the big bang is real, and I believe that there have been an infinite number of them. like a chain. crazy? Study the Physics!
Pagan...
I wonder what you think thinking outside the box means?
Ancient...
I like yours the best so far, strong character, being your own God. rational

2006-10-18 07:18:58 · update #1

Ancient..
ran out of space last time. Of all faithful religions, it is your type I respect the most, in fact, I respect your character as being more solid than mine is. I want religion, I just can't believe in it, especially the more I learn.
Roxton...
I also admire you. But the last statement,"The reason I believe in God is because an unseen super is piloting the ever moving universe.. doing a very good job" Ever study physics? Atomic physics? If you have, then you did not realize that there is enough basis in our particles and present state of our universe's energy/matter is enough to create the order you see.
Favored...
I think that I am insane, only because I don't have the natural belief in God. That is what people need. Although it is not a true belief. Hey, you depended on eye and lip service to learn how to read, and to listen to your priest, what makes you think I am any different than you? Hey, I believe in air too.
Oh, and history doesn't back up god, nor science.

2006-10-18 07:28:04 · update #2

Nero...
Your recently added logical argument seems to be saying that the universe was created. very logical and consice.
I believe that the universe existed forever, big bang, either collapse and another big bang, or overstretching itself and space time/other dimensions getting thin, and creating another big bang through the touching of two dimesional groups.
must have designers and makers? the watch was compiled by previously existing matter, it follows logically that there was always a prevous matter.
David...
Right David, Faith is a choice. No doubt about that, to have faith, we have do decide to have faith. Pounding the obvious to sound smart? good tactic, not being sarcastic.
spiritual experience or awakening, all so far seen as tricks of a complicated brain. as to the complexity of the brain, it follows a few set genetic laws from birth, encouraging it's complexity, not god.
I like your fear of death, I agree with that.
Understand. sorry for my acid. tiredness and logic.

2006-10-18 07:35:38 · update #3

11 answers

I believe I am obsessed with God.

2006-10-18 07:06:31 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

If by a rational person, you mean logical then believing in God is completely rational. Here is the argument:

Premise 1 (P1). A watch is a complicated thing;further the watch has a designer and a maker .

P2: The watch is just an imitation ( a copy) of the orbital laws ( earth's rotation, etc. The original.

Conclusion: Therefore the watch, the imitation, and the orbital laws (the original) must both have designers and makers. ( In the Bible the designer and maker of these orbital laws is called Jehovah, God )

2006-10-18 07:02:33 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Faith and Reason goes together.
Faith without reason is stupidity.
Everyone who believes in God will have a reason why.
The only reason why I would ride a plane is because I am sure that the Pilot have been trained to fly.
The reason I believe in God is because an unseen super being is piloting the ever moving universe and he's doing a very good job at it.

2006-10-18 07:09:11 · answer #3 · answered by Roxton P 4 · 0 0

Bad supposition. (faith != rational)
I see the universe around me, and I believe it is far too well organized to be an accident.
Of course I am rational.
And I love God.
I still believe that Pluto is a planet.

ps: you have faith in the big bang, evidently
you assume i know nothing of physics
pointless conversation
you either believe or you don't
your choice

2006-10-18 07:05:07 · answer #4 · answered by pops 6 · 0 0

Believing in God does not require a mind not completely rational...it would require a mind rational, sane, and since faith is the belief in evident demonstration of realities (REALITIES) not beheld, then it would mean not depending on eye or lip service.

I believe in the air, it's backed up by chemistry, by biology and the fact that if i hold my breath the REALITY is that I will die..Yet I cant see air.

There fore I believe in God, history backs HIM up, science backs HIM up, and when I tried to live my life in a way that alienated me from HIM, i was going against the "manufacturer's user manual" and was unhappy.

2006-10-18 07:10:40 · answer #5 · answered by FavoredbyU 5 · 0 0

Faith, as you have alluded to, is defined in the Bible as 'belief and hope in things unseen'.

Faith is really a choice, you choose to believe or you choose not to.

You may be moved be intuition, by a spiritual experience or awakening, by looking at creation and deciding there must be a creator, by fear of death, desire for change in your life or by love of the life and works of a saint, prophet or Jesus Himself.

For instance I believe because of deep personal experience, educational upbringing, logic (looking at life, matter and creation) and love of what my saviour has done for us. But it is still a choice, there has been times in my life (adolescence) when I choose NOT to belief. It was easier to 'misbehave' that way. Understand? Peace.

2006-10-18 07:25:04 · answer #6 · answered by David M 3 · 0 0

No, my faith is very firmly placed in the realm of the physical. Because I am essentially my own God/dess. I know that sounds bad, but I monitor my own thoughts and deeds and pay the prices appropriatly. If I dwell on the negative, its only natural that I'll have a negative day. There's the basic example. Just because I "use" the Pagan gods to center myself and follow their peaceful path in life, doesn't mean I expect them to listen to every Prayer and pay attention to EVERY fault I make on my path.

I'm one of the few who understand that praying to an invisible, external God is really trying to center yourself on your own goals, wants needs. Most people would fell silly starting their Prayers with "Dear Me, I really would like myself to...." and etc. (myself included, but hey, we all have to have weaknesses)

2006-10-18 07:07:01 · answer #7 · answered by Ancient Forever Lost 2 · 0 0

God would not hate the guy. He hates the sinning action. He gave us all loose will and we are able to % to stick to the policies He set out for us or we are able to pass our very own way. that does no longer mean that He ever stopped loving somebody because of the fact of their action. in case you repent then he's there to take you decrease back with open hands and forgive the sin. God loves anybody =)

2016-12-16 09:50:20 · answer #8 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

Belief in evolution also requires faith of a sort, since evolution is still a theory, and has not been proven. If you believe evolution has been proven, please give me the proof. Faith may not be based on imperical data, but it is not irrational.

2006-10-18 07:04:22 · answer #9 · answered by Epitome_inc 4 · 0 0

Thinking outside the box (outside of earthly norms in this case) does not mark a person as being irrational.

2006-10-18 07:05:52 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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