Christians, what type of stones should I use when stoning my unruly child in accordance with the bible ?

Question

"And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die"

(Deuteronomy 21:20-21).

.... Let the excuses begin !

Answer 1

Well, no wonder you're confused. You don't know what it is that you're reading! Actually, hurting or killing anyone is PROHIBITED in the OT. Unfortunately, most folks don't (and didn't) understand that.

Step 1: Exodus 20:20 tells us that God has come to TEST the people. Exodus 16:4 tells us the purpose of this test is to see if the people will walk according to His Law.

Step 2: The Mosaic law does, indeed, include the passage you've quoted.

Step 3: In direct contradiction, Leviticus 19:18 requires that: "You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the LORD."

Step 4: Deut. 27:26 "26 ‘Cursed is the one who does not confirm all the words of this law by observing them.’
“And all the people shall say, ‘Amen!’”

Step 5: James 2:10 "For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all."

Step 6: Step 5: Deut. 20:9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor." Because the Law was ONE unit, as explained in Steps 4 and 5, anyone who breaks the Law is guilty of breaking them ALL. Therefore, only two completely righteous parents could serve as the required 2 witnesses against their child. Such people do not exist; therefore, these parents would be "false witnesses."

Step 7: Deut. 19:15-21 tells us that anyone who is a false witness will bear the punishment the accused would have gotten.

Step 8: Question: according to the above Scriptural sources, does one show love for one's neighbor, or for their child, if a child is killed? What does this tell you about the passages you quote; is it lawful for anyone to stone their child? Is it lawful for a parent to accuse their child of being a sinner? NO. Whose right is it to punish? GOD'S: Deut. 32:35a: "Vengeance is Mine, and recompense..."

Jesus told us He came to fulfill and glorify the Law. He repeatedly rebuked the Pharisees for applying a strict, legalistic view of the law that cut out God's mercy. He also rebuked them for their mistaken belief they were qualified to carry out God's proscribed judgements, given in the law. This is the reason why they all walked away from the adultress and didn't stone her to death -- they had all violated one or another of the Laws, which disqualified them from punishing her.

The point is, you cannot violate one law in order to follow another. Anyone who seeks to do so FAILS GOD'S TEST.

Peace.

Answer 2

Well, let's see.

From the passage that you quoted, you must first gather all the men of the city together. You might want ot do this at a rock yard, other wise, you may have trouble finding stones of sufficient size and weight to do any real damage. You have to have a consensus from all of the towns men that your son meets the criteria for stoning and you, of course should probably have your son there to stone.

As a further criteria, Jesus has one more requirement before the stoning may begin. It is found in this passage.
John 8:2-8 (New International Version)

"At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground."

So if you can find someone who has never had an evil or selfish thought, never ever sinned, according to the law that you want to enforce, then he may throw the first stone and the rest may continue until your son is dead.

Answer 3

This would be funny if it weren't so sad. Gotta watch asking questions like this of a highly informed PRO-LIFER!

You live in a highly secular nation. One of the few that still executes children and you ask such a question?

Silly silly you...

From Amnesty International:
Since 2000, only five countries in the world are known to have executed juvenile offenders: China, Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Iran, Pakistan, and the United States. Pakistan and China have abolished the juvenile death penalty, but there have been problems in nationwide compliance with the law.

FYI: The paragraph you quote from refers to an ADULT son. Not a child son.

Answer 4

There is no excuse for you lack of knowledge or misrepresentation of the bible. Your ignorance is understandable, but the smugness behind that ignorance is what is amazing.

It's obvious that you came across something, maybe even on the internet, and decided to pass it off as the smoking gun AGAINST Christianity.

If you are actually interest in knowing the truth to what you ask then let me know and I would be happy to help...TLB

Answer 5

As a Christian of the New Covenant, I am not under the law of sin & death. I am under Grace. So when my child disobeys the 10 commandments, I don't have to stone him / her to death. I need to intercede in prayer for the salvation of my children.


We are in a time of truth & grace right now. Also, you can repent for not believing in Jesus Christ. As I can understand, you need to hear the good news. Jesus Christ came to save those that were lost in their sins. Those that confess Jesus Christ Lord and believe in their heart the atonement (shed blood for remission of sins) & resurrection (from the dead) will be saved (receive eternal life).

Answer 6

I did not know that Stoning to Death is also ordered in bible. However, better treat the unruly child psychology and forget about remote sayings.

Answer 7

First, that's part of the Jewish law, which Christ supposedly came to fulfill. The Christians are more bound to the New Testament than the Old. So, technically, and ethically, they aren't bound by that particular law.

Still, Christians reading the same book will discern that being homosexual is wrong and an abomination, so it does sound like a double-standard to me.

As for the first part of your question though, I would probably recommend round ones about the size of half a fist as these would be the optimimum weight for hurling.

Answer 8

Apparently, you only read what you want to read,
Did not Jesus Christ say:-

" He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone"
(New Testament | John 8:7

Let God be the judge.

Answer 9

Oh how I do enjoy reading through the answers as each person scrambles for an answer from a different source that is supposed be unaminous with all. there's only 1 stephen king and 1 dean koontz

Answer 10

2 Corinthians 3:13-16
But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.