You have a problem with this, don't you?
Your BIG problem with this has not happened yet.
I hope you get this resolved before hand.
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2006-10-17 19:05:27
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus and the apostles never taught "a trinity"
nor did they even hint at one.
rs p. 405 pars. 1-2 Trinity ***
The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.
*** rs p. 406 par. 1 Trinity ***
In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.
(Romans 15:4-6) . . .” 4 For all the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope. 5 Now may the God who supplies endurance and comfort grant YOU to have among yourselves the same mental attitude that Christ Jesus had,
6 that with one accord YOU may with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
If Jehovah said "This is my Son" why should we disagree with Him?
2006-10-18 15:21:22
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answer #2
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answered by TeeM 7
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Jesus never mentions the word 'trinity' but he did mention that he and his Father were one and that when he left to go back to the Father that the Father would sent the Holy Spirit or Comforter. Also I think it's John 1:1 (it's been a while since I read my bible) where it says something about in the beginning was the Word and Word was with God and the Word was God... and the Word was made flesh... Some say this is a reference to a trinity but it just mentions to 2/3 of it though.
I use to teach the example of the trinity as a book. A book has three dimension: width, length, and height. With the right prospective or angle you can see all three dimension at one time. Each dimension is unique but each one is a part of one book. Some people teach the trinity like there are three separate beings that make up God... like God is a council or something. Similar to the United States is one nation but fifty independent states.
2006-10-18 02:12:16
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answer #3
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answered by atheist_2_u 4
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There is a saying: For those who believe, no proof is necessary; those who do not believe, no proof is possible. Take into consideration creation, creatures, and the only creature created in God's image.
DEMONSTRATING EXISTENCE OF THE HOLY TRINITY:
The HOLY TRINITY is defined as:
A term used since A.D. 200 to denote the central doctrine of the Christian religion. God, who is one and unique in his infinite substance or nature, is three really distinct persons, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The one and only God is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Yet God the Father is not God the Son, but generates the Son eternally, as the Son is eternally begotten. The Holy Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son, but a distinct person having his divine nature from the Father and Son by eternal procession. The three divine persons are co-equal, co-eternal, and consubstantial and deserve co-equal glory and adoration.
We need to know how we are created in God's image to grasp the concept of the Holy Trinity and I think your question is a good one.
To understand this better, chart it out or use a diagram of two triangles of equal proportions like the Star of David. This allows an easier understanding of the relationship between the Essence and Existence of a thing. The following words should be distinguished in the following categories: Physical, Mental, and Spiritual. These three words encompass everything in the Universe and make up the CREATIVE PROCESS to help describe the Creator, creatures, and creation.
God is spirit. He cannot be seen. If you were to examine all the creatures, the CREATOR has made a pattern emerges: angels and demons are intellectual creatures without a body; plants and animals do not have an intellect but a body and mortal soul. IT IS ONLY LIVING, HUMAN, BEINGS, that have a MIND, BODY, and SOUL. Only human beings have all three. Now, living, human, being is the existence of man. Those words describe the essence of man's mind, body, and soul. The Body is living, the Mind makes us human and distinguishing us from animals, and our Soul makes us the being that we become (good or evil).
Now, even Muslims will agree Allah is omnipotent (all powerful), omniscient (all knowing), and omnipresent (ever present). These words describe the existence of God. So, what is the essence of God? I will hold off answering this question till the end.
Now, if you think about the existence of a person they have a triple existence: physical (body), mental (mind), and spiritual (eternal soul). In fact, whenever we create something it has all three of these parts. When we cook we have a recipe (in our mind), we gather all the raw ingredients, and we cook (don't burn it, ha ha) what it is we are making. Cooking has the physical, mental, and spiritual parts. Same with engineering or technology it has three parts: the blueprints (to convey an idea), the raw materials (physical), and the workmanship (spiritual). If something goes wrong investigators will look for a design flaw, material flaw, or faulty workmanship. THIS DEMONSTRATES CREATION HAS THREE PARTS LIKE THE CREATOR.
Now, in the Bible it says Jesus is the visible likeness of the invisible God. (Colossians 1:15) The ESSENCE OF GOD IS: Father (mental), Son (physical), Holy Ghost (spiritual). ONE TRUE GOD IN THREE JUST LIKE A PERSON. THREE PARTS ONE PERSON. When you are sick you send for a doctor; when you are mentally troubled, a psychiatrist; when spiritually seeking you seek out a holy person.
2006-10-18 02:07:37
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answer #4
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answered by Search4truth 4
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There is only one God but God has three "God Heads" or three Persons. The Father, The Son (Jesus) the Holy Spirit. Look at it sort of like this...A basketball team has five players on the floor at one time. They are five individual players but comprise one in the same team. 5 people =1 team. 3 God heads= 1 God. In John 10:30 Jesus said He and the Father are one.. Read Matthew 3: 16. And in Luke 3:21&22 the story of Jesus baptism is told. It shows The Holy Spirit descended in bodily form to or into Jesus. Then a voice (the Father) spoke and said that Jesus was His Son.
2006-10-18 02:25:41
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answer #5
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answered by Anonymous
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Not all Christians believe in the concept of trinity, like not all muslims are fanatics, not all germans are nazis, and not all americans are ignorant. We all need to stop generalizing and using one word to describe a wide variety of religions with tons of different religious views and beliefs.
As for the trinity,
I personally have never understood it. I believe God is GOD, Jesus is the Son of God who came down to earth and taught us, then was resurrected up to Heaven to be at God's Right hand, and that the holy spirit is just something that fills you when you are feeling extra religious. I don't know much about the whole, they are one thing, but from what i've heard it doesn't make sense to me.
2006-10-18 02:10:06
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answer #6
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answered by Ignorance is bliss, huh? 2
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It was part of the Nicene Creed. And the Apostles Creed. When the Church was new there was little pockets of believers and when things cooled of they got together in Nicaea. They said what the all believed and the Trinity was something they agreed on.
PS On the Trinity it is not in the Bible. But why believe me I'm Pagan.
2006-10-18 02:09:05
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answer #7
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answered by Tedi 5
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the word trinity never appears in the bible ...i personally do not believe in the trinity per se... i believe in God the Father and God the Son... ppl tend to make the "Holy Spirit" an entity.. but i believe it is what Jesus called the Comforter .... the Father put the knowledge of right or wrong in our hearts... HIs spirit so to speak... all that is good and right with us .... can we be filled with that spirit? i believe so ...it is a gift from our father
2006-10-18 02:09:26
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answer #8
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus is God
2006-10-18 02:20:46
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answer #9
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answered by ? 4
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Jesus never used the word "trinity";
Jesus spoke of his "Abba" & the sending of the Spirit.
2006-10-18 02:06:53
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answer #10
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answered by ThomasR 4
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You still on worship God.
The trinity is just part of Gods power.
2006-10-18 02:05:15
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answer #11
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answered by shogun_316 5
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