No Limit Texas Hold Em Poker question: A weird situation happened on an all in hand that has me puzzled?

Question

I have a poker question.
I was recently playing a low $ home no limit cash game ($1.00, $2.00 blinds). There was about $40.00 in the pot at the river and I put a new player to our game all in. I had about $90.00 and he had about $45.00. The hand really does not matter (I felt I had him beat based on his play and I was correct). He thought a minute, turned his cards over in front of him (exactly where they were before) and shrugged. I said "I got you" or something like that. He then said "I fold" and threw his cards into the muck. This raised alot of discussion as this is a small friendly game.
The thoughts were:
1) He mucked his cards by turning them over.
2) He was all in by turning his cards over.
3) Although sneaky, he got me and no harm no foul.
I of course won the pot and he kept playing but I am still confused if this is actually legal. It worked for him as during the discussion he said he was having trouble getting a good read on me and this helped.

OK Some clarity. Yes I agree I won the hand. What is frustrating is that I would have won ALL his chips had he went "All In". In this case, I only won the pot that was already there. So should I have been given all his chips or was he just a bit smarter thatnme???

Answer 1

He was not following protocol of No Hold Em to the letter, for me I would have told him to behave as that is being smart alec to throw others....Next time set the guidelines before commencing game so all understand....cheers

Answer 2

there are a lot of answers here that are completely wrong (even by the so called vegas poker dealer)....

unless he says "i call" - turning his cards over is the same as folding. if he had you beat and tried to take the money - then that would have been incorrect and you should have won the pot anyway (although not all his chips - just what was in the pot since he was folding to your bet).

so you won what was in the pot before the last raise - he folded to your raise. turning your cards over is a fold.

Answer 3

No, a player loses his right to RAISE once he shows his hand. As long as one or both cards don't touch the muck (the chips stacked in the pot, the discards, the deck etc.), he has the right to call or fold.

It's a bit of a funny thing to happen to you, but it happened to me once in Vegas AFTER a guy had bet. He turned over his hand to show top pair, worse kicker than me, so I called knowing I couldn't lose. Weird, but not illegal.

Answer 4

1) once they are mucked they are mucked. 2) sometimes, once they are turned over they are mucked 3) once you open your mouth when you shouldn't it can cost you. and it did . # 2 doesn't apply because that is not normally how you guys play. tell me what the cards were. for all i know which is typical you are dumb but the other guy is dumber. but so far the only dumb play is yours. here is a fun fact. it is $5 to go and the next player tosses in a ten dollar chip but doesn't say anything. this play is a five dollar call.

Answer 5

The number one rule in any poker game is protect your own hand. His hand was still live although he did expose his cards to you, the hand was only dead when he threw it in the muck. If only turned up his hand it did not automatically put him all in, If he declared all in and then turned up his hand then he mucked he would have forfeited his right to the pot. It is considered rude to expose cards at the table, in most casinos he would be talked to and told if he continued to show cards he could be asked to leave, but showing your hand does not kill your hand nor does it declare you all in.The hand is only dead once it hits the muck...

Answer 6

Actually, im not sure but unless he puts chips in, I would have thought flipping the cards meant he wanted to fold and was just showing you why he didnt call.

Answer 7

He had not called, raised or folded, so his hand was still valid. Anyone dumb
enough to show his cards to another player deserves to lose, but it's not
against the rules.

Answer 8

This got a little confusing, but I think I got it. If he says, "I fold" and then turns his cards over, the pot's yours since him verbally saying that he folds and that's binding.

Answer 9

I have been a professional Texas Hold'em poker dealer for two casinos. If he showed you his cards, and didn't say, "I call", then he mucked them. If he said "I call" and then showed, and you won the hand either way.

Answer 10

2 7 off suit but i have seem it develop into two pair, three of a kind ,flush, fullhouse, four of a kind.any two cards can become a good hand. some are more likely than others.