So if we are not required to fully understand spiritual relationships to get into heaven??

Question

why is it so important we all agree this trinity idea as if we really knew what that meant. If all we need is to Love Jesus (all that that enpompasis and nothing more) to get to heaven then what possible doctrine could be so improtant as to cause separation within the body like we have today. Further more then why are the Muslims so far off the mark. What they believe is no different about Jesus than the Christian view that the relationship between or within God and Jesus. I suspect it is a relationship that can not be written in words.

Be of one ACCORD

cuz we fight He sees and

Jesus weeps to this day

I asked for a referance giving the exact relationship I received none 20 minutes ago

OK 1hour ago

Answer 1

>"So if we are not required to fully understand spiritual relationships to get into heaven??"

What we need to get into Heaven is:
1. to realise and acknowledge we are sinners by nature and sinners by actions/deeds
2. to acknowledge we need a Saviour
3. to see Jesus is that Saviour
4. to accept Him as Saviour (and, hopefully, follow Him as Lord).

>why is it so important we all agree this trinity idea

From Scripture, it is possible that a person not even so much as know if there be a "Holy Spirit",. But if Jesus is to be Saviour, He must be God (else He could not be Saviour for all).

> as if we really knew what that meant.
>If all we need is to Love Jesus (all that that enpompasis
>and nothing more) to get to heaven
>then what possible doctrine could be so improtant
>as to cause separation within the body like we have today.

>Further more then why are the Muslims so far off the mark. >What they believe is no different about Jesus than the Christian >view that the relationship between or within God and Jesus.

What they believe is "no different about Jesus than the Christian view"??

It seems that there is a very real & very important difference!!

It seems they acknowledge that Jesus is A prophet. We believe He is Prophet, Priest, and coming King. We believe Jesus is God, the Son. We believe He is the coming Prince of Peace, the coming King of Kings.

Answer 2

Oh okay! I can answer the first question about the trinity.

Well we have to understand first that our understanding comes from what we hear and are able to comprehend, and this is isummed up in a nice way, for example if I were to say something funny like

in the beggining there was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God!

hmm... that's interesting, I don't know why I've found so many people that are interested to look into metaphysics, but it seems to me like many things are interconnected, but if you want to know why eating the apple in the garden of Eden is actually dreaded sun worship, just ask me later. The trinity is like an upward facing triangle, and that implies a directed life or devotion. the father inspires the son to work for the father, spreading his holy name and fame, and together, they experience the bliss of the spirit, which is the own nature, thank you goodbye

Adam B

Answer 3

The doctrine of the Trinity -- that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are each equally and eternally the one true God -- is admittedly difficult to comprehend, and yet is the very foundation of Christian truth. Although skeptics may ridicule it as a mathematical impossibility, it is nevertheless a basic doctrine of Scripture as well as profoundly realistic in both universal experience and in the scientific understanding of the cosmos.

Both Old and New Testaments teach the Unity and the Trinity of the Godhead. The idea that there is only one God, who created all things, is repeatedly emphasized in such Scriptures as Isaiah 45:18:

"For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; …I am the Lord; and there is none else."

A New Testament example is James 2:19:

"Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well; the devils also believe, and tremble."

The three persons of the Godhead are, at the same time, noted in such Scriptures as Isaiah 48:16:

"I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, there am I; and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me."

The speaker in this verse is obviously God, and yet He says He has been sent both by The Lord God (that is, the Father) and by His Spirit (that is, the Holy Spirit).

The New Testament doctrine of the Trinity is evident in such a verse as John 15:26, where the Lord Jesus said:

"But when the Comforter is come whom I will send unto you from the Father, He shall testify of me."

Then there is the baptismal formula:

"baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" (Matthew 28:19).

One name (God) -- yet three names!

JESUS -- That Jesus, as the only-begotten Son of God, actually claimed to be God, equal with the Father, is clear from numerous Scriptures. For example, He said:

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty" (Revelation 1:8).

HOLY SPIRIT -- Some cults falsely teach that the Holy Spirit is an impersonal divine influence of some kind, but the Bible teaches that He is a real person, just as are the Father and the Son. Jesus said:

"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak; and he will show you things to come" (John 16:13).

TRI-UNITY -- The teaching of the Bible concerning the Trinity might be summarized thus. God is a Tri-unity, with each Person of the Godhead equally and fully and eternally God. Each is necessary, and each is distinct, and yet all are one. The three Persons appear in a logical, causal order. The Father is the unseen, omnipresent Source of all being, revealed in and by the Son, experienced in and by the Holy Spirit. The Son proceeds from the Father, and the Spirit from the Son. With reference to God's creation, the Father is the Thought behind it, the Son is the Word calling it forth, and the Spirit is the Deed making it a reality.

We "see" God and His great salvation in the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, then "experience" their reality by faith, through the indwelling presence of His Holy Spirit.

Answer 4

understanding The Trinity and accepting it have nothing to do with ones Salvation or lack of it.... nore dose knowing or understanding any number of other "doctrins"...

why the differences leading to fighting... EGOS.... just that simple..

You are quite correct in stating the relationship between God and the individual can not be written in words... I have tried since I became of The True Christian Faith over 6 yrs ago... and others have tried over many centuries..

You are in error concerning islam... that has absolutly nothing to do with The True Christian Faith or with God in any way except to be against Him....alllah is not God... they have no truth concerning Jesus and do not accept The True Jesus... what they indoctrinate is a corrupted image that is inteded to lead astray those seekig The Truth.

as to receiving God's free gift of Salvation and entering Heaven... and that is The Only way to enter Heaven, Loving Jesus will not be enough... loving Jesus comes at the istant of Salation not be fore not after... it is an itergral part but not all of the requireent to meet God's requirment for entering heaven...

Answer 5

This is a very different Jesus than the Jesus of the Muslims…

15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
17He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
18And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
19For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
20and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross. (Col 1)

I hope you will put up with a little of my foolishness; but you are already doing that.
2I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him.
3But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.
4For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. (2 Cor 11)

Answer 6

i feel the same why is there only one god but everyone warships differently well my view is that everyone is different that is why we are unic im sure god is happy with us no matter how we warship him i know i love all my children even though they have there own ways ya know i pray for the same thing and i tell everyone i believe in god and i like all people and i dint believe in religion good luck

Answer 7

Wait, the place did you get the theory that one and all gay all of us is open minded? The gay community is fairly very equivalent to the different community. There are racists, sexists, gays who do unlike bisexuals, gays and bis who do unlike trans human beings, and so on. In an perfect international you will think of it does no longer be like this, yet......... advantageous, an excellent form individuals are fairly open minded, yet no longer each and every physique. i think of an excellent form individuals overlook with regard to the gays and bis who easily do prepare a faith. regrettably, you're overshadowed by way of hate mongers who additionally declare to be non secular. as a results of fact of this i think of our non secular allies ought to be extra vocal of their help for gay equality. maximum individuals in ordinary terms hear with regard to the non secular people who're against homosexuality.

Answer 8

You are composed of body, mind and soul or spirit.
You are yourself a form of trinity, because you have been made into the image of God.
You are not just body and mind. Your soul is the animo of your very existence.

Answer 9

u go to heaven by accepting god and jesus in your life and not by relationships, doing right but still doing right is good, but be baptised and u will go to heaven!!!

Answer 10

"And the spirit returns to God who gave it"..Sounds to me that everybody goes back to God. Not all to rejoice, but all go back to where God is.