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Who decides what is just? Who makes the guidelines?

[17.33] And do not kill any one whom Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause, and whoever is slain unjustly, We have indeed given to his heir authority, so let him not exceed the just limits in slaying; surely he is aided.

2006-10-17 11:16:34 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Read the tafsir of the verse if you are really interested

Btw it says 'kill' not murder. When the USA kills those that killed are they murdering?

2006-10-17 11:17:43 · answer #1 · answered by abdulaziiz 3 · 4 2

[17.33] And do not kill any one whom Allah has forbidden [Americans], except for a just cause [dont like 'em], and whoever is slain unjustly [Muslim Americans], We have indeed given to his heir authority, so let him not exceed the just limits in slaying; surely he is aided



Those Communist Bastards

2006-10-17 18:19:36 · answer #2 · answered by vegasbrother99 3 · 1 2

Muslims Christians

Religion

Murderous

2006-10-17 18:18:22 · answer #3 · answered by Xae 6 · 2 1

u can understand this verse best with the following.
Al-Baqara | 286 verses | The Cow سورة البقرة
Sura #2 | Madina
190 Fight in the way of Allah against THOSE WHO FIGHT AGAINST U, BUT BEGIN NOT HOSTILITIES. Lo! Allah LOVETH NOT AGRESSORS.
191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and DRIVE THEM OUT of the places WHENCE THEY DROVE U OUT, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And FIGHT NOT WITH THEM AT the INVIOLABLE PLACE OF WORSHIP UNTIL THEY ATTACK YOU THERE, but IF THEY ATTACK YOU(there) THEN SLAY THEM. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

ONLY WHEN ATTACKED. -- those words should be given attention to.

just cause here means -- in SELF-DEFENSE when someone opresses and tortures -- one's family, oneself, country, country people -- then it is one's duty to protect them and to keep up to the trust others have in one. and yes if someone attacks my family and my country -- i will stand up against them and i will fight. a man who cannot protect his family, country and country people is a man minus ..............

may the peace and blessings of Allah be with us and may He guide us in the right path.

have a nice day and peace.

2006-10-17 23:00:36 · answer #4 · answered by marissa 5 · 3 0

means except those who commit murder or do high extremely corruption in society and seek to harm ppl
in fact its a rule in Islam to fight those who commit terrorist actions
amazing how can ppl try to twist the meaning of al quran without knowing they do favor to Muslims by allowing others to know the true meaning of Islam

http://www.islam101.com/terror/verse8_12.htm

http://www.islam101.com/terror/versesT.htm

2006-10-17 18:26:43 · answer #5 · answered by SARAH 3 · 2 0

So you think that Muslims unjustly kill people...well, people like yourself are much much worse.

The Srebrenica Massacre

The Srebrenica massacre is the largest mass murder in Europe since World War II and it is the first legally established case of genocide in Europe. [6] In the unanimous landmark ruling "Prosecutor v. Krstic", the Appeals Chamber of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) ruled that the Srebrenica massacre was an act of genocide stating in its judgement:

"By seeking to eliminate a part of the Bosnian Muslims [Bosniaks], the Bosnian Serb forces committed genocide. They targeted for extinction the forty thousand Bosnian Muslims living in Srebrenica, a group which was emblematic of the Bosnian Muslims in general. They stripped all the male Muslim prisoners, military and civilian, elderly and young, of their personal belongings and identification, and deliberately and methodically killed them solely on the basis of their identity."

To achieve this aim, they proceeded with ethnic cleansing of Bosniaks from Bosniak ethnic territories in Eastern Bosnia and Central Podrinje with the aim of linking it to Serbian territory.

Ratko Mladic Recognized Genocide

Both highest ranking Bosnian Serb politicans, Radovan Karadzic and Momcilo Krajisnik, were warned by Bosnian Serb military commander General Ratko Mladic, also indicted on genocide charges, that their plans could not be committed without committing genocide.

People are not little stones, or keys in someone's pocket, that can be moved from one place to another just like that... Therefore, we cannot precisely arrange for only Serbs to stay in one part of the country while removing others painlessly. I do not know how Mr Krajisnik and Mr Karadzic will explain that to the world. That is genocide, said Mladic.

On July 12, 1995, as the day wore on, the already miserable physical conditions were compounded by an active Serb campaign of terror, which increased the panic of the residents, making them frantic to leave. The refugees in the compound could see VRS soldiers setting houses and haystacks on fire. Throughout the afternoon, Serb soldiers mingled in the crowd. Summary executions of men and women occurred. [16]

In the late morning of 12 July, a witness saw a pile of 20 to 30 bodies heaped up behind the Transport Building in Potočari, alongside a tractor-like machine. Another testified that, at around 12:00 hours, he saw a soldier slay a child with a knife in the middle of a crowd of expellees. He also said that he saw Serb soldiers execute more than a hundred Bosniak men in the area behind the Zinc Factory and then load their bodies onto a truck, although the number and methodical nature of the murders attested to by this witness stand in contrast to other evidence on the Trial Record that indicates that the killings in Potočari were sporadic in nature. [16]

That night, a Dutchbat medical orderly witnessed a rape:

We saw two Serb soldiers, one of them was standing guard and the other one was lying on the girl, with his pants off. And we saw a girl lying on the ground, on some kind of mattress. There was blood on the mattress, even she was covered with blood. She had bruises on her legs. There was even blood coming down her legs. She was in total shock. She went totally crazy."

On 13 July 1995, the Dutchbat troops witnessed definite signs that the Serbs were executing some of the Bosniak men who had been separated. For example, Corporal Vaasen saw two soldiers take a man behind the "White House". He then heard a shot and the two soldiers reappeared alone. Another Dutchbat officer saw Serb soldiers execute an unarmed man with a single gunshot to the head. He also heard gunshots 20–40 times an hour throughout the afternoon. When the Dutchbat soldiers told Colonel Koseph Kingori, a United Nations Military Observer (UNMO) in the Srebrenica area, that men were being taken behind the "White House" and not coming back, Colonel Kingori went to investigate. He heard gunshots as he approached, but was stopped by Serb soldiers before he could find out what was going on.

Among other lurid accounts of mass murder, Ruez cited cases of adults being forced to kill their children or watching as soldiers ended the young lives. "One soldier approached a woman in the middle of a crowd," he said. "Her child was crying. The soldier asked why the child was crying and she explained that he was hungry. The soldier made a comment like, 'He won't be hungry anymore.' He slit the child's throat in front of everybody."

2006-10-17 20:33:21 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Why are you picking on Muslims? Do you think they are the only group of people that commit murder?
Your bias is so evident that your question can't be taken seriously.

2006-10-17 18:22:05 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

I would say that the Palistinians have just cause.

Their family , wealth, and property have been stolen .That for me is just cause!

2006-10-17 18:26:56 · answer #8 · answered by All Star 4 · 2 0

Islam = Peace in all the early Islamic wars only 380 ppl were killed only think about that Islam did not kill ppl you do

2006-10-17 18:20:45 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

If he killed someone or has done any crime which has the punishment of execution according to Islam law.

2006-10-17 18:26:28 · answer #10 · answered by MUSLIM 2 · 2 1

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