Are God and Jesus the same person?

Question

For those who believe that Jesus and God are the same person, how can you comment the clear distinction that the same Jesus made between Him and God in the Gospel according Mark:

Mark 10:17As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. "Good teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?" 18"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone. 19You know the commandments: 'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.’ “
In the text following, they are again distinctly separate because it is God to give the revelation to Jesus:
Revelation 1:1The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place.

It is written that Jesus is "the firstborn from the dead", does this mean perhaps that God is dead? God has never died. Then, in the passage following Jesus and God are distinctly separate again:
Revelation1:5and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.

Has God been created? No, therefore also in the next passage they are still distinguished.
Revelation 3:14"To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God's creation.”

I'll stop here giving further examples, because after all, faith is not a matter of statistic.

To Carcara`...Hi, I trully think that more than sustain a conclusion it would be more interesting to bring an argumentation.

Answer 1

I'm sorry I can't find God the Son at:

1 John 5: 20 But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us intellectual capacity that we may gain the knowledge of the true one. And we are in union with the true one, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting.

It always amazes me that people don't read the context of the verses they continue to quote.

John 10:30, please read to the end of the chapter.

You will find that Jesus says he is equal to human judges (Ps. 82:6)

He says the he and the Father are one in works.

That is the context.

John 8:58 to use the expression "I am" is improper english. If you repeated that expression to any english teacher you would be corrected. In english (unlike greek) you can not mix tenses.

"I am" can not stand alone because it doesn't answer the question Jesus was asked.

Answer 2

No.

A rational trinity: 1) God, the source of our consciousness and an ocean of love, created 2) the Word, a vibrational force that created and sustains the universes, and which created 3) the Christ, or Word made flesh, to help humans to return to their creator.

The Word is represented in religions by symbols for light and sound - in Christianity the symbols are the candle and the bell.

The person manifesting the Christ lives in a body that eventually dies a natural death or is prematurely slain.

At some point another human manifests the Christ. There have been many such humans throughout history, an there is always at least one on this weary old earth.

Answer 3

The Holy Spirit will give you the ability to separate between soul and spirit.
It is not hard to understand the three aspect of the Godhead. If you look at your self you are a three fold person. You could be described as a son, because you have parents. You could be a brother, because you have siblings, and you could be a father, because you have children of your own.
The three aspect of the Trinity are talking about God's three distinctive personalities. He is the all knowing Father, He is the Teacher and Comforter, "The Holy Spirit", and He was the anointing on Jesus. Further God impregnated Mary with a creative miracle when she was still a virgin. Like the rest of us the blood is from the Father, so Jesus was actually the Son of God. Genetically. His anointing was the Mind of Christ, or the creative aspect of God. He was fully man and He became fully God in His mind, at the age of 30 when He was Baptized. Since He is the only natural son of God that makes Him pretty special. We are all adopted sons of God if we accept that. We too operate in the Mind of Christ when God is ministering out of us.

Answer 4

Well before you get to Mark, you have to read Matthew which talks about the Great Commission (Matthew 28:16-20) in which Jesus instructed His disciples to go make disciples and baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Trinity is comprised of:
God, the Father - the source of all life
God, the Son - the Word in human form from the source
the Holy Spirit (which is also God) - the advocate nature of those Words

So, yeah they are the same person. You can't get to God without going through Jesus, but situational circumstance also denote "who" you are calling on in your time of need.

Answer 5

"I and my Father are one"
"Before Abraham was, I AM"

That's all I need to accept that Jesus was a vehicle for God. God could have came down as any form he wanted. Does it make you wonder why God chose to manifest a virgin birth? ( I believe ) God had a very special presence in Jesus. Yes, Jesus was a man, but was by far the most unique man in history. ( I believe ) God was with Jesus in a way that cannot be fully understood or explained. By the way, I didn't accept this until late last year. Maybe I'm wrong, but this was my choice. I wasn't coerced or brainwashed.

Answer 6

When Jesus was here on earth He was God the Son, but He was also man. That is why there was a distinction. In 1st John 5:20 it is very clear that Jesus is God..

Answer 7

GOoD question my friend. Jesus is God the son, He prayed to God the father in the garden before He was crucified. God the Holy Spirit is here now to comfort us and to glorify Jesus after He ascended to heaven. Jesus was 100% man 100% God and always did His fathers will. God the father alone knows when His son will come for His bride the church.which is referred to as the rapture!

Answer 8

Are you asking how divine was Jesus?

God is not a person.

He is perfectly capable of being the Father creator, as well as that still small voice that gives us counsel and grace, AND at the same time, of being a man for a few short years, to save us from ourselves.

Maybe we have to split God up into three parts just to wrap our puny brains around the reality of Him.

Answer 9

As refer to Chapter112 verse Al Ikhlas 1 to 4 of The Holy Quran:-
In the Name of Allah, The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
112:1 Say, "He is Allah, (who is) one,
112:2 Allah, the Eternal Refuge.
112:3 He neither begets nor is born,
112:4 Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
This verse clearly shown that There is only one God and Jesus Christ is his messenger-- a human being like us.

Answer 10

When Moses asked God for His personal name, he responded with "I am" (YHWH). (exodus 3:14) When the Pharisees asked Jesus to defend himself in John 8, he responded with "Before Abraham was, I am."(YHWH) (John 8:58) and the Pharisees wanted to kill him, because he had claim to be one with God.

Also in John 10:30 he says "I and the Father are one."

And in Matthew 4:7 Jesus tells Satan not to tempt "the Lord, your God" referring ot himself.

It's pretty clear that Jesus believed he was one with God. In fact, in the Mark passage you quote in the question, Jesus does not separate himself from God. When he says no one is good except God alone, he is pointing out that the young ruler had identified Him as God without knowing it.

The bible teaches Christ's deity. The big question you have to ask is this: do you have the eyes to see it?