Pro-illegal Vs Anti-illegal, You're not legal if your not Native American?

Question

I'm sick of Native Americans being brought up in the debate of illegal immigration, When someone is pro-illegal they argue that "you are not a legal citizen if you are not Native American"
I thought back then it was " free land" that laws weren't developed, nor was the amendment around then?
If other people had not came what do you think America would be today, Certainly not the land it is today.

So can someone please explain why if i am NOT Native American i am an illegal in my own land myself?

Answer 1

Thank you for posting this. I have been writing that sort of thing for so long, but none of the pro-criminals seem to understand truth. I guess they communicate only in myth.
Here's a thought:
One point of the naturalization process is to check the backgrounds of potential immigrants. If people are skipping around this, how can we keep out the filth like murderers, rapists, gangs, and conmen? Actually, that's exactly what is coming in. Noticed the increase in gangs lately? How about the fact that 350000 of our 2 million and counting criminals are illegal aliens that committed crimes other than forgery and illegal entry? That's over 17% if you can't do the math yourself (which, again, you can blame immigrants for- their anchor babies are flooding our school systems and slowing them down because they refuse to learn anything).

Answer 2

Anyone telling you that you are an illegal in that you are not a Native American is in need of some schooling. Anyone born in the United States by law is a Native American. You were born of U.S. citizens if your parents were born in this country.
To talk of Native Americans, you can talk of various cultures. If you would really like to see how the Indians or one in particular feels about being called "Native American", read up on Russell Means, an original member and co-founder of the American Indian Movement (A.I.M.) He is quite an interesting indvidual and has a very good remark concerning the Indians being called Native American. I did a report on him for one of my college history classes.

Answer 3

Illegal immigration: the myths and the facts
By JOE R. DAVENPORT

10/14/2006

Myth: We are a nation of immigrants.
Fact: This myth is false on its face. Nearly 88 percent of the people living in the United States today are not immigrants; they were born here. This is a nation of natives, not a nation of immigrants. "But," the liberal propagandists reply, "we all have ancestors who came from other countries." And, one might reply, so does just about every other nation on Earth.

Are not the French merely descendents of the immigrant barbarian Franks, who drove out the Roman-era Celtic Gauls? And the English are simply immigrant Angles and Saxons who virtually wiped out the Celtic Britons in the fifth century A.D.

They too are nations of immigrants under this liberal myth, as is practically every other nation on Earth. The myth descends to meaninglessness upon any serious analysis. Yet whenever this myth is uttered, we are expected to nod our heads in agreement that a deep and salient point has been made.

Myth: Illegal immigrants are taking only jobs that Americans do not want.

Fact: Many illegal immigrants are able to work for less than market value because they don't pay income or Social Security taxes and are able to take their entire paycheck (or cash) home. This is not only unfair competition against employers who follow the law and pay employees "above the table," but it depresses the wage scale for Americans who would otherwise select jobs currently filled by illegal immigrants.

These are jobs that Americans "do not want" only because the illegal immigrants have depressed the wage scale for the positions. Take away the illegal immigrants, and wages would rise to the level where Americans would take the jobs.

Myth: Illegal immigrants have a right to come here. It is our Christian duty to provide hospitality.

Fact: Nearly two-thirds of the 32.5 million foreign-born people living in the United States entered this country legally, and the United States has more legal immigrants than any other country in the world.

That's hardly poor hospitality, and no bill before Congress that has a chance of becoming law would change this nation's hospitality. But it is poor hospitality to say to the nearly 22 million legal immigrants who waited in line that they wasted their time following the rules because illegal immigrants will now get the same status.

The need to deport illegal aliens and secure our borders has nothing to do with persecuting minorities or lack of hospitality. The United States can continue to allow a number of immigrants into this country legally, depending upon how many can be reasonably assimilated without destroying our American identity. Rather, securing our borders is necessary as a matter of principle - in the interests of equal justice under law - as well as practical security in this age of international terrorism.

'Nuff said.

Answer 4

The short answer: Yes, it is now on the Internet for the world to see. Absolut has answered this question for themselves and will pay the consequences. America is finally waking up to the massive anti-American companies that are spitting on us behind our back, and yet these same companies depend on the American market to maintain their billion dollar CEO's salaries Absolut will Never be allowed in my house again! Any proud American will dump it down the drain, and boycott their company by passing the word to every other American they know. Americans buying power can cripple any company with the simple action of buying another product that caters to American pride.

Answer 5

Honestly, how many coutries in the world are still occupied by the people who lived there first? Hardly any. Alexander the Great and the Macedonians never apoligized for taking over Asia. Caesar and the Romas never apoligized for taking over Gaul. Napoleon and the French never apologized for taking over Europe. Genghis Khan and the Mongols never apoligized for taking over almost everything. Why should Native Americans be treated specially? They were victims and so were many other peoples. I'll say it though, we won...sorry. You can't use history to influence the present. We control America, not them. We are now the natives. They are now just people.

Answer 6

Well I am 1/5 Native American( Crow Tribe, Kansas), 1/5 English,1/5 French Canadian,1/5 Irish, 1/5 Scotch. I am very proud of my native blood as well as the rest of my heritage.. I also am not offended to be called a half breed Indian (as I was in the Army in New Mexico) Because I am not a half breed, I am one fifth breed & proud of it. The native Americans came from the north , over the pola cap years before the whites. WE even hated each other until the whites gave us a reason to hate them As far as this 1/5 indian is concerned, if you were born here or are here legal then WELCOME TO AMERICA, the greatest land on the earth.

Answer 7

Europeans may of been here first, I think it is funny, they make that statement and the truth maybe changing soon, but honestly, it really don't matter that was a long time ago.

Americans hold values, and we as a country love immigrants, we just ask for them to follow procedure. It may take time, but the end resault is the best for every one. Some of which just don't really want to be Americans, and that is where the real problem is.

Answer 8

If you ask the native americans, no person can own land anyway, so it's preposterous to be illegal or legal on any piece of land.

Answer 9

Okay Sugar...
The ones who are sickened by the fact that undue genocide was commited against the Native's, or this land...are the one's who say these things...and it is true.

Okay listen...you all say, "they can't come here because it's OUR LAND!!! WE LIVED HERE FIRST!!!! WAHHH FOR ME!!!!"
The fact still remains that you were not here first...THE NATIVEs WERE!

And you are very wrong when you say that "laws were'nt developed". Do you know what the U.S. Constitution was modeled by??!?!?!?!? OBVIOUSLY NOT.

It was modeled after the Iroquois Confederacy, which was found by the british, after massive world traveling and searching, to be the largest, most defined, organized law and order known to ANY COUNTRY! And this is why the U.S. Constitution copied and reworded it!...Google it, it is true.

BUT you are right when you say that America wouldn't be the land it is today, if it wasn't for whites showing up. BECAUSE...if whites hadn't showed up, we ALL would STILL be living in harmony with the earth, animals and neighboring tribes. And following our own law in order that was intact, which emphasized the preservation of MOTHER EARTH, FATHER SKY AND ALL THAT DWELLS UMONGST THEM BOTH!!! MY ANCESTORS HAD A GOOD, HAPPY AND HEALTHY LIFE, UNTIL OUR MEANS OF LIVING WAS ABRUPTLY TAKEN AWAY, OUR NATURAL RESOURCES WERE ALMOST DIMINISHED BY WHITES AND WE WERE "CATTLED" BY SETTLERS TO HORRIBALLY DEVELOPED LAND WHICH LACKED ENOUGH SPACE FOR EVERYONE IN MY TRIBE!!!!

Whites were the ORIGINAL Illegal immigrants of this land, why should that be viewed differently now??? The fact still remains, it has not changed...

OH I ALMOST FORGOT- TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ALL MAD BECAUSE WE ARE CALLED "NATIVE AMERICANS"...WE DID NOT ASK FOR THIS LABEL...IT WAS IMPOSED UPON US BY WHITE AMERICA!!!! SO GET OVER IT, TAKE IT UP WITH YOUR LEADERS, DON'T BASH US, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ASK TO BE CALLED THIS, IT'S A MAJOR MISNOMER!!!!!!

Answer 10

RElax. These arguments are made by morons! I answered a "Native American" recently on this subject. I told him that I was as much a native American as he was. Here's why.

His ancestors crossed over the Bering Straits during the last ice age. Mine came over from Eurpoe on ships. What difference does it make that HIS ancestors arrived here first? And by the way... who really settled this land? Certainly not the Indians. They refused to develop any meaningful form of agriculture, or dynamic civilization. We, the white man, kicked the Indian's collective a*sses. So for whatever reason, America is now OURS! That makes me, and you and anybody born in the U.S.A., a genuine Native American. If anybody tries to tell you any differently, tell them to kiss your a*ss!