What are your ideas about this?

Question

All theists say that God created everything, that is The Creator. While atheists say that there is no God.

Now lets traverse a chain, that is, everything which is created has to have a creator. So maybe atheists would say God may have a creator himself.

The chain would be, creation, creator, creator of the creator, creator of the creator of the creator and so on .......

Is it more logical to think that this infinite chain exists with no creator at all or this chain is finite which means there is God?

Iconoclast, Who had those superstitions and where did the one having those superstitions come from?

A Qurius Muse, Why were these Physicists awarded the Nobel Prize for taking snaps of the backfire 389000 after the Big Bang?

If you don't believe in Big Bang, then how do you think the universe came into being? Are you more intelligent than people who have spent their lives researching this?

Answer 1

NO ONE can tell or preach or claim that they really know anything!!! UNTIL THEY DIE ... then we will all eventually know the answers to the questions.

Answer 2

Logically, this line of thinking runs into the problem of Infinite Regression. Since finite things have a beginning, they need a causal event. An infinite chain of finite events does nothing except delay the inevitable question; what was the original causal event?

Logically speaking, the only answer would be that the finite universe (and science has determined that the universe is in fact finite) is for a causal event initiated by something outside of time and the universe as e know it. IN other words, the initiating cause of the universe had to come from an eternal, preexisting source. We Christians consider that source to be God, which we view as eternal, having no beginning and no end.

Answer 3

You are trying to figure this answer out in an infinite universe. Time, matter, and the universe are all finite. These three things exist in many dimensions, but God exists in the highest dimension of existence (the 10th dimension) 6 days of creation and 4 knowable dimensions. length, width, height, time (depth) Ephesians 3:18. Each day of creation, the dimensions between the creator and the creation broke down. This has been proven in the 11th century.

Answer 4

If God does not exist, and nothing existed before the Big Bang, what caused it?

Nothing, because the Big Bang never happened, God does exist and God created the universe.

As for creation...

According to the Big Bang theory, scientists assume that the universe began as a singularity the size of a marble that fits in your hand.

How is it possible to fit the ENTIRE universe in a marble?

The Big Bang theory suggests that the origin of the universe began as a singularity - a primeval atom. If the universe actually did begin as a primeval atom, where did it come from? And if the primeval atom did exist as a singularity, how is the Big Bang mathematically possible if 1+0=1?

Which means that if the primeval atom exists as a singularity and there is nothing else to add to it, then shouldn't the universe still exist as a primeval atom according to this mathematical principle?

And if such a primeval atom exploded the universe into existence, how could it consist in the first place if it existed as a singular instability? - which means that the singularity was unstable and blew up (if this is the case, how long was it stable and what caused the instability if it existed as a singularity and there was nothing else there to unbalance it)?

Learn to look at things differently is to see things clearly.

The universe is a non-linear construct from The Infinite. The universe has a beginning but it has no end...

More explicitly...

God caused all existence to altogether consist simultaneously at once...thus, the universe is a non-linear construct from The Infinite.

How is this possible? Simple... E=mc2 (The conversion of light energy into matter).

ALL MATTER CONSISTS OF ENERGY.

Where does this energy come from? A primeval atom the size of a marble? Do you REALLY think that is physically possible?

If E=mc2 is the conversion of light energy into matter, and all matter consists of energy...then all matter originally consisted as light.

Where did this energy come from? Light.

If energy came from light...and GOD IS LIGHT...all energy came from God!

If God is Light...and Light is energy...

What does God consist of?

E...N...E...R...G...Y...

E=mc2

If God says, "I am the beginning" God is saying, "I am the raw material from which all existence consists." Thus, God Himself is the Light from which all matter is formed...

God is E=mc2

Genesis 1.1

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

"In the beginning" means "From Eternity"

If Eternity has no beginning nor end, and God has no beginning nor end, God is Eternity.

Genesis 1.1

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

When was the heaven created? In the beginning.
When was the earth created? In the beginning.

So if BOTH the heaven AND the earth were created in the beginning, the heaven and the earth were BOTH created simultaneously!

THUS, THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH ARE THE SAME AGE!

So the earth IS over 65,000,000 years old!

Genesis 1.1

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

If "In the beginning" means "from Eternity", and God IS Eternity, AND GOD IS THE BEGINNING, "In the beginning" means "In God". So Genesis 1.1 actually says, "In God, God created the heaven and the earth".

Why didn't Genesis 1.1 say "At the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" as if related to time like "At 1:00"? Because "In the beginning" is "from Eternity" where there is no time. AND "In the beginning" is BOTH a moment AND a location.

How? God is Omnipresent. NOTHING can exist OUTSIDE OF GOD, thus everything exists WITHIN God. SO, "IN the beginning" is actually "WITHIN the beginning"; which is actually "WITHIN God, The Beginning".

Thus,

Genesis 1.1

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

or

Within, God The Beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.

God is Spirit. Angels are "spirit" beings. God created angels from Himself.

The same way God formed angels from Himself, so formed He existence...

With one thought.

God has no beginning. He has no "first thought" as if He had a beginning. God's infinite knowledge itself is one thought.

Omniscience is infinite knowledge as one thought.
Omnificence is unlimited creative power.
Omnipotence is infinite power.
Omnipresence is infinity itself.

Put them together, what do you get?

Unlimited creative power applied to infinite knowledge that is expressed everywhere at once with a single act of infinite power!

Or

God creating existence from Himself with one thought!

E=mc2

Genesis 1.1

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

or

Within, God The Beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.

or

Within, God The Beginning, God formed from Himself, Existence, with one thought - causing all existence to altogether consist simultaneously at once.

Thus, the universe is a non-linear construct from The Infinite - God Himself. The universe has a beginning but it has no end.

Which is why the background of the stars is black.

Learn to look at things differently is to see things clearly.

Existence itself is created from God's physical existence. Yes God does physically exist, He is just physically different.

How do I know all this, simple...

I asked God this question...

What are you made of?

His answer...

Energy.

And that was the beginning of my instruction directly from the Creator...

Answer 5

I think you are way way off base. God has always existed. He IS the creator, if he was created, then whoever created him would be God.


I also think this is just a silly little word game.

God created all, He has always existed. He needn't have been created.

Answer 6

All things have to start from something, some believe it's from God ... I am not sure what others believe, but none of us have enough proof to prove our beliefs beyond reasonable doubt.. So questions like these get the same response as the question bout wich came first the egg or the chicken.

Answer 7

Infinite

Answer 8

Good question, I think the answer is an agnostic one. This can not be known as we exist today.

"Ocean: A body of water occupying 2/3 of a world made for man...who has no gills." -- Ambrose Bierce

Answer 9

I see where you're going, but I can already tell you what the counter argument is going to be.

Humanity has been assigning god's to forces they don't understand for thousands of years. As science explains how things work, the gods die off. These last two " Allah " and " Jehovah " are the last one left standing. Give us time.

That would be roughly the answer I would expect. best wishes.

Answer 10

Atheists will go out of their way and dump logic in the toilet rather than concede to the possibility that God exists. Uhm... the majority that is.

Answer 11

It is a theory to consider...only I would have to start the chain with creator...not creation... :)