When Billy Graham and those who preach the same "gospel" lay out a message of how and why Jesus "died for our sins," he then invites people to "accept Jesus Christ as personal Lord and Savior" so as to come "under the blood." In other words, my "acceptance" means his propitiatory death is appropriated to my "account." This is Substitutionary Atonement. Is not this what you mean when you talk about "accepting Jesus as personal Lord and Savior" and not a simple message of looking to Jesus and his message of the Kingdom of God. Is not this taking Jesus' good news of the Kingdom and adding to it the church's "gospel" based on what it believes about Jesus' death (i.e., "baggage")??
2006-10-16 09:17:44 · 13 answers · asked by ? 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
It's vicarious atonement which surely from a moral viewpoint is dubious. In effect they're accepting another human being should suffer for sins they have commited.
2006-10-16 09:21:16 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
For one Billy Graham is not a very good example I don't think .He wants ur money ,but what I beleive is if u yorself without prompting accept Jesus as your personal Lord and savior ,and you follow his words those that are written in the Bible not those that some televangelist has rephrased to serve his own selfish purpose than you shall be saved from the flames of hell and go on to live in the kingdom of heaven for eternity. God Bless!!!
2006-10-16 09:28:10 · answer #2 · answered by Alicia S 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The gospel is not about what you do it is about what the Lord Jesus did on the cross for all that would believe. He died for your sins, He was buried and took your sins away and He rose again the third day for your justification. 1 Corinthians 15: 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 1 Corinthians 15: 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 4: 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. Salvation is not based on you "accepting Jesus as personal Lord and Savior" It is based on what you believe. Do you believe and trust in what He done for you.? He done it all, you done have to get out of your seat and go to any alter. The only righteousness you have is inputed to you by the Lord Jesus Christ when you believe. Romans 3: 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
2006-10-16 09:38:25 · answer #3 · answered by Ray W 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
You don't read the Bible much do you? Christ died once for all our sins...our sins is what put Him on the cross and His love for us is what held Him there...and Come under the blood as you phrase it means it continually cleanses us from sin until Christ calls us home...and what is meant as accepting Jesus as our personal Savior means knowing that He died for your sins and you believe, repent and ask forgiveness for your past life and ...and He arose again and defeated death....you do not know one thing you are talking about..... if you did ...your question would not be so jumbled and without a point....
2006-10-16 12:55:49 · answer #4 · answered by appleblossom_1957 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
There's no example in the book of Acts of anyone being told to be saved by simply accepting Jesus or saying a "sinner's prayer".
To be saved one must "call on the name of the Lord" (Acts 2:21)
What does it mean to "call on the name of the Lord"?
It does not mean simply saying his name. Matthew 7:21 says, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
It does not mean simply saying a prayer. In Acts 9:9-11 Saul was fasting and praying for three days. He had been told that in the city someone would tell him what he must do to be saved. At this point no one had given him these instructions.
We see in Acts 9:18 and Acts 22:16, he was told to "be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord".
Even though he had been praying and fasting, his sins had not been washed away up to this point and obviously praying was not the same as "calling on the name of the Lord".
What is "calling on the name of the Lord"? It's relying on his authority. It's doing what the Lord says to do, in the way He said to do it, and for the reason he said to do it.
Look in Acts 2:36-38 and see how Peter said for them to "call on the name of the Lord" and be saved.
Look in Mark 16:15-16 and Matt. 28:18-20 and see what Jesus said to do to be saved, then rely on His authority and teaching.
Jesus is "the author of eternal salvation to all who obey him". (Hebrews 5:9)
2006-10-17 07:34:52 · answer #5 · answered by JoeBama 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
wow that was profound... Is it baggage to believe in the necessity of Christ's propitiatory death, (of which I doubt very seriously that you understand what you say, I would be willing to bet that you are saying propitiatory but meaning expiatory) It is far more than just a simple "appeasement of God's wrath". But then if you understood what is really happening then you would not call it baggage you would call it freedom... (Rom 8.1)
2006-10-16 09:24:13 · answer #6 · answered by 57chevy 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Is Christ a Trinket on display, as to one accept Him? For sure, if that's a fact, then what a shame. Accept Him that created the world?. Who are we that must have a certain degree of snubness to say, " Well, ok I'll accept Him".
2006-10-16 09:24:12 · answer #7 · answered by Royal Racer Hell=Grave © 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
If you don't see your sin you won't see your need for a Savior. I don't believe you can be saved without repenting of sin.
2006-10-16 09:24:52 · answer #8 · answered by wisdom 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Not sure what you mean, but I'll take a guess.
One's "accepting him as Lord and Savior" is accepting his attonement. This is biblical.
Which "church" are you speaking of - Catholic - their attonement is not biblical and different from that of protestantism.
2006-10-16 09:21:47 · answer #9 · answered by Salami and Orange Juice 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Sorry... you have lost me. Sounds like the premise to a good question. Are you a JW? I ask because of your references to The Kingdom.
2006-10-16 09:22:08 · answer #10 · answered by zero 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋