ok lets have a serious debate on this.i think they should be banned because they are worn by muslims and some of these people AND NOT ALL are trying to destroy our world.what happens if a man dresses in the full robes and has a bomb with him?if you can see the face then you know if they are m/f.Also do not forget that the veil is a sign of oppression for women in muslim countries in this country thay are not opressed so why do they feel the need to wear them.
2006-10-16 08:29:45 · 46 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Civic Participation
If a woman wants to wear a veil, who are you to tell her not to? I'll bet you're okay with mini-skirts, tube tops, and stilettos though. Just because you don't like it or agree with it doesn't mean you have any right to prevent others from wearing a veil.
The person who said that they should have to reveal their face for ID in certain situations makes a very valid point.
Maria: You're being facetious, right? There is no way you think you have a right to be "comfortable" in anothers presence.
Wow, I can't believe the number of people who think my answer is bad. Whatever happened to freedom of expression? Whatever happened to live and let live? And more importantly, why do people feel that it is perfectly acceptable to walk around like a hooker but it isn't okay to cover oneself up and behave in a respectful manner (like it or not, most Muslims are NOT terrorists or insane people).
2006-10-16 08:32:04 · answer #1 · answered by Goose&Tonic 6 · 5⤊ 9⤋
There is no place for the full veil to be worn in public places, the veil is not worn by many women in Pakistan where most of the UK's Muslim community originated from. We should take the example of a town Mayor in Belgium where he banned the veil in public, and imposed a three tier penalty if caught wearing the veil in public. 1st offence. A small fine 2nd offence. Double the First fine 3rd offence Arrest.
There is too much said about religion, the veil has no place in Islamic teachings so it is not religious, also the Muslim community make much to do about their civil rights and their right to wear what they want. Many Pakistani Muslims set themselves apart by dressing as they would in Pakistan.
They will never integrate into society within the UK but remain a separate ethnic society and indeed by their very dress and manner have no wish to integrate. YES the veil for women and Arab headdress worn by some Muslims in the UK should be banned with the appropriate penalties imposed for breaches of the law.
2006-10-19 19:11:50 · answer #2 · answered by Gamall 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't think it is right to ban anyone from wearing a veil that is part of their religion or their way of life. I wouldn't like anyone to ban me from wearing anything that is a symbol of my faith. However, I do take your point about the posibility of hiding things under robes etc., but we cannot assume that everyone who wishes to wear robes or a veil is a criminal or a terrorist. We just have to be extra vigilant like we already are now. I am not dismissing this question lightly since I live directly across the road from the Edgware Road Tube Station that was bombed. A couple of my neighbours were on that train (thankfully unhurt) and me and my friend went round all our neighbours and collected for flowers to be laid in the station the night that it happened. So I am taking this question seriously. Also, the bombs were in rucksacks, so do we also say that rucksacks must be banned? I agree with you about the dangers of things being concealed under garments, but they can also be hidden in other ways. I would not wish to upset a whole religion or nationality because a few sick people went on a rampage. Much better we all just stay extra vigilant. I also disagree with veils for the same reasons that you mentioned about women being oppressed which is why I cannot understand these women wearing them, but if that is their wish or way of life, then it has to be their choice doesn't it?
2006-10-16 08:52:25 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
You say: "IF you can see the face, then you KNOW if they are Male or Female" ?? That's a rather foolish statement... unless the male is actually wearing a beard or mustache
Should we ban Baggy-pants next ? They are an obvious sign of gang-affiliation, crime, and gun use !!
Perhaps we should ban Dark Suits ? They are the uniform of the criminal lawyer, the politician, and the corporate elite !!
YOU suggest that the veil should be banned because they are warn buy Muslims... and though not all Muslims are dangerous they are a threat to our world.
What of those women of Hasidic Jewish, Amish, Quaker, Coptic, and other faiths who are required by the BOOK to cover their heads ??
I agree with a previous poster regarding photographs for licenses, passports, and other identification that the individual must uncover for the photograph and screening.
And you are FAR off on your comment that the veil (jibal) is a sign of oppression... the BURKA and the punishment inflicted if not worn was oppressive.
2006-10-16 13:38:07 · answer #4 · answered by mariner31 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
I believe veils should be banned, especially in cases where it would cause problems and issues and even endanger peoples life's at times.
For example:-
When a women wearing a veil uses a bus or train pass, a passport, or any other I.D. which is based on facial characteristics.
Driving a car when any partial covering of the eyes could obscure a view of the road, and hence be a danger to herself and other road users.
Be trying to teach English! Take a look at the women English teacher that was sacked this week, because her students could not understand her due to not being able to see her lips move when speaking English.
The face and eyes can portray a persons emotions and thoughts. If the face and eyes are hidden from view, then how can another person know what that women is feeling or thinking. How can I be expected to trust a person, when that person wants to hide their face? Trust comes from not hiding oneself. I would be criticised if I went around wearing a balaclava all the time.
The fact is that a veil represents a religious belief. It is becoming clear that religion is causing more problems than it is solving. Would it not be easier to ban all religious symbols except at a specific place of worship? I agree with the French law which bans all religious clothing within schools. This week, a staff member of an airline company, was disciplined for wearing a Christian cross. Why is it that Christians are not allowed to show religious symbols, and yet other faiths are allowed to show as many religious symbols as they want? Surely it should be the same rules and regulations for everyone. If religious symbolism was banned in public, we would not even be having this discussion now.
2006-10-16 08:51:05 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
No, they should not be banned. There are certain circumstances where I feel that wearing a veil is not appropriate, and people should be willing to remove face coverings in these situations or face the consequences.
In general though I feel that people should be able to dress as they wish. I think it's obvious to everyone now that wearing a veil *does* make a lot of people feel uncomfortable, which makes it something to consider, but you can't completely ban people from dressing in an intimidating way if they choose to do so.
2006-10-18 10:52:47 · answer #6 · answered by lauriekins 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If someone told me not to wear a cross necklace, I'd be upset (it's already happening around the world). As much as I disagree with some customs, that does not mean that they have any less reason to do the custom.
I do feel that the veil is a sign of oppression for women, yet I feel that education is a good way to start changing that. Get a women smart enough to figure out a way to leave the country or make changes to the culture to help women.
2006-10-16 08:40:22 · answer #7 · answered by freetodervish 3 · 6⤊ 0⤋
The Qran does not force women to wear the veil, why do non Muslim people always make this error.
It is the Women themselves that want to wear it.
They feel safer that way.
Leave them alone and put your hood back on.
What would you say if a clean shaven white person wearing an overcoat carried a bomb.
Ban overcoats?.
A Shoe Bomber was caught on an aeroplane, do we ban shoes?.
One day someone will walk in to a crowded room with some plastique up his backside.
Try banning those!.
2006-10-20 08:27:06 · answer #8 · answered by rogerglyn 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
This sort of subject really gets my blood boiling. I don't think they should be allowed to wear their veils, in fact their are loads of things that shouldn't be allowed, and I have said this before. What has this country become? I'm not racist or prejudice in any way, shape or form, and in fact majority of my friends are of colour. This is England, and I know we are a multi-cultural society, but I'm sick of reading in the newspapers about Muslims etc. Their is nothing positive in our newspapers anymore, just a load of B******S, which quite frankly has gotten to the stage of being BORING. I read last week a 14 year old girl was reported to the police by her school and arrested, because she didn't want to sit with 5 other students, of which 3 couldn't speak english and were all speaking in Urdu. Disgusting, it really is. I understand that they have their own "Set of Rules", but if you chose to live here then Rules that are in place already should be abide to. Instead the government is adding so many rules now to their "Rule Book", that their are no boundaries anymore.
I would leave this country tomorrow if I could.
No offence intended, this is just my opinion.
2006-10-20 06:04:08 · answer #9 · answered by bizzybee 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Banning the veil is neither an option nor is it needed.
We need to be sensible about the whole affair.
If identification is needed then the veil must be removed, simple, no room for debate on that one and anyone who would disagree is stupid.
If you are in a public fronting occupation then the veil can be intimidating to those you are trying to work with/for and there fore it should be removed. I would question why take a job that then requires you to go against your so called believes?
In your own house... wear the veil as much as you like
2006-10-17 21:03:03 · answer #10 · answered by Martin14th 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
And exactly how, in a free country like the U.S., a country with a clear separation of church and state, do you propose our legislative bodies, introduce legislation to ban what is essentially a religious practice? And if you're suggesting that other countries, and perhaps Muslim nations, pass such legislation, you're seriously devoid of any rational thought.
And as far as men in robes goes... are you suggesting that the govenment pass legislation that would force the Catholic Church as well as the Greek Orthodox Church, from prohibiting their priests from wearing robes??
You asked for a serious discussion, and I've given you one... I don't think you even considered the points I presented... which reveals how very ignorant you are of all the ramifications of your poorly thought out proposal!!
2006-10-16 08:45:41 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋